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Would the world destroy itself?

  1. Feb 25, 2006 #1
    "If I could prove there was no God I would keep it a secret lest the world destroyed itself" R. A. Underwood

    I read that quote and it posed a good question. Lets assume that someone can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that God does not exist.

    What would the world do, would the quote be right?
     
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  3. Feb 25, 2006 #2
    I'd say by the time that's happened, we'd have already beaten the world to it.
     
  4. Feb 25, 2006 #3

    Ivan Seeking

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    We can never prove a negative. So this is a bit like asking what color their wings would be if pigs could fly.
     
  5. Feb 25, 2006 #4

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    Well I know plenty of people who don't believe in God and i don't see them running around destroying themselves or any substantial part of the world. Obviously a world without God doesn't mean a world not meant to be lived in.

    And yah, as Ivan put it, theres no way to prove a god doesn't exist.
     
  6. Feb 25, 2006 #5

    Ivan Seeking

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    There is an old saying and I wonder how true it may still be: There are no atheists in fox holes.

    I have heard that seriously injured soldiers often call out for one of two things: God, and/or their mother. But this comes from people who fought in Vietnam, Korea, and WWII, so things could be different now I guess.
     
  7. Feb 25, 2006 #6
    Let me play the devil's advocate (no pun) and salvage this thread:

    If a substantial majority of the world's population were convinced of the improbability of the existance of a god and become atheists... (what would happen?)
     
  8. Feb 25, 2006 #7

    Pengwuino

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    I stand by my statement. Although my atheists friends are relatively less moral and ethical, i don't see anything like the end of the world resulting out of 6 billion of them.

    Then again 6 billion people acting like my friends would probably spell the end of mankind for other reasons....
     
  9. Feb 25, 2006 #8
    You would die in a horrible cataclysm for your balasphemy. The hand of Him that is God would come and squish your puny human form for such heresy.
     
  10. Feb 25, 2006 #9
    I am certian that there exists an a priori argument that proves that the concept of a judao-christian-islamic god is inherently self contradictory. I will report back on this after 2 months of thought.
     
  11. Feb 25, 2006 #10

    If god is omnipotent, can he create a boulder so big he can't move it?

    Omnipotence is an inherently self-contradictory concept.
     
  12. Feb 25, 2006 #11

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    I was thinking about something the other day in terms of this and things we discuss in physics. I was thinking to myself about all the questions we pose about this idea, this concept called "god". We think, is omnipotence self-contradictory? Can god microwave a burrito so hot that he himself could not eat it? etc etc. Isn't it possible the questions are equivalent to asking what time a photon measures passing by some clock? I've heard from people on this forum that asking such a question is silly because our understanding of photons makes such a question completely meaningless contrary to our view of all other things in the universe. To us, the idea of a proton traveling at a certain speed having time dilation is perfectly acceptable, nay, ludacris to deny. When it comes to this one case of a photon however, such questions are just thrown out the window and accepted to be non-sense questions. Isn't it possible that the questions we see as contradictory or paradoxial in nature are just equivalent to the photon's time questions, unanswerable/irrelevant yet unindicative of the photons existance?

    I have only given this one days thought, be back in 2 months with my full proof i got from sciforums.com :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
     
  13. Feb 25, 2006 #12
    They are Oinkrange.

    edit: or maybe pornk, porkple?
     
  14. Feb 25, 2006 #13
    There have to be morales in a society, and that is what a religion does. Germany's population is decreasing since fewer people are settling down and having kids because they want to continue to live the life of reily. I consider Germany a much more liberial country than the United States.
    -Scott
     
  15. Feb 25, 2006 #14
    Can you tell me what would happen when you take the limit as the power of an entity approaches infinity, and get a non-contradictory answer?
     
  16. Feb 25, 2006 #15

    Pengwuino

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    What is the function, F(x)? :rofl: :rofl:
     
  17. Feb 25, 2006 #16
    I said. Oinkrange, porkple. come on. i'm not asking for much.
     
  18. Feb 25, 2006 #17
    Ok, so most people don't believe in flying pigs and the world keeps turning just fine in spite of this. Why would it be different for a god, or God, or any variation on gods you can dream up?

    Wait! I take that back. I think the dinosaurs didn't believe in gods either, and they're extinct. Hmmm. :tongue:
     
  19. Feb 25, 2006 #18
    what proof do you have that the dinosaurs didn't believe in god?
    What did the T. Rex use those little arms for if it wasn't praying?
     
  20. Feb 25, 2006 #19
    You got me there. So T. Rex spent his time praying and became extinct anyways. That's proof enough for me: religion doesn't save afer all.
     
  21. Feb 25, 2006 #20
    unless they prayed for extinction. then it was spot on
     
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