Solving x2 + y2 with xy+x+y=71 and xy(x+y)=880

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In summary, to find x^2+y^2 if x and y are positive integers and xy + x + y = 71 and xy(x + y) = 880, you can use the substitution method and solve for u and v. This results in two solutions, one of which has integer solutions for x and y, while the other has irrational solutions. The final solution is x^2+y^2 = 146.
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i have to find x2 + y2 if x and y are positive integers and
xy + x + y = 71
xy(x + y) = 880

this is what i have done:
since x and y divides 880, x or y must be 2, 5 or 11, because 880 = 24.5.11

from the first equation i can see that
x = 11 and y = 5 or x = 5 and y = 11

so x2 + y2 = 146

but is there a way to do it algebraically?

thanks in advance.
 
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one thing you could do is from equation 1 set x+y=71-xy, plug that into equation 2 to get xy(71-xy)=880. Set xy=z and you have a quadratic equation in which one solution is 55, therefore xy=55 and you get the same solution (you also get a solution of xy=16...but that doesn't fit your first equation)
 
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You can completely solve for [itex]x^2+y^2[/itex] algebraically, and eliminate the non-integer solutions as a final step. Make the substitutions [itex]u=xy[/itex], [itex]v=x+y[/itex]. Then [itex]x^2+y^2=v^2-2u[/itex]. With those substitutions, the two given equations become

[tex]u+v = 71[/tex]

[tex]uv = 880[/tex]

The two solutions to the given equations are [itex]u=55[/itex] and [itex]u=16[/itex]. The goal is to solve for [itex]x^2+y^2[/itex]. Note that
[tex]x^2+y^2=v^2-2u = (71-u)^2-2u = 71^2-144u+u^2[/tex]

Applying the two solutions for [itex]u[/itex] yields [itex]x^2+y^2 = 146 (u=55)[/itex] and [itex]x^2+y^2 = 2993 (u=16)[/itex].

As a final step, note that the former solution, [itex]x^2+y^2 = 146[/itex], corresponds to [itex]u=55,v=16[/itex], which has integer solutions in [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex]. The solution [itex]x^2+y^2 = 2993[/itex] corresponds to [itex]u=16,v=55[/itex], which has irrational solutions in [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex]. Thus [itex]x^2+y^2 = 146[/itex].
 
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1. What is the first step in solving this equation?

The first step is to rearrange the equation to isolate the xy term. This can be done by subtracting xy from both sides of the equation, resulting in x2 + y2 - xy + x + y = 71 - xy.

2. How can I simplify the equation to make it easier to solve?

You can use the fact that xy(x+y) = 880 to simplify the equation. By substituting 880 for xy(x+y), the equation becomes x2 + y2 - xy + x + y = 71 - 880, which simplifies to x2 + y2 - xy + x + y = -809.

3. What are the possible solutions for x and y?

There are infinite solutions for x and y, as the equation is a quadratic with two variables. However, the most common approach is to use the quadratic formula to solve for one variable in terms of the other, then substitute the solution into the other variable to find its value.

4. Can I use a graphing calculator to solve this equation?

Yes, a graphing calculator can be used to solve this equation by graphing both sides of the equation and finding the points of intersection. However, this method may not provide an exact solution and may only give an approximation.

5. Are there any real solutions to this equation?

Yes, there are real solutions to this equation. By using the quadratic formula, we can find that x = 11 and y = 10, or x = 10 and y = 11, are both solutions to the equation. There may also be other real solutions that can be found by further manipulation of the equation.

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