Solving for x in |x+3|+|x-1|=5

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In summary, the student was trying to solve a homework equation but was having difficulty doing so. The equation is -(x + 3) + -(x - 1) = 5 and can be solved if x is in the intervals -∞, -3, or 1.
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Homework Statement



|x+3|+|x-1| = 5

Homework Equations



absolute value = distance from origin
distance between 2 points on a line = |x1-x2|

so |x+3| can be viewed as the distance from x to -3
and |x-1| can be viewed as the distance from x to 1

so we are trying to find a point x which has a distance from -3 and a distance from 1 that combine to equal 5...

The Attempt at a Solution



The options that add up to equal 5 are (0+5), (5+0), (2+3), (3+2), (1+4), (4+1)

if |x+3| = 0, then x=-3... that gives 4 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 5, then x=2 or -8... that gives 6 and 14 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 3, then x=0 or -6... that gives 4 and 10 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 2, then x=-1 or -5... that gives 4 and 8 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 1, then x=-2 or -4... that gives 4 and 6 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 4, then x=1 or -7... that gives 4 and 12 instead of 5^ not only is that a really inefficient way to try to solve it. but I also couldn't get the answer! :(

can someone please tell me a way to solve these problems?
edit: I just realized I neglected all the options where x is not an integer...
 
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nickadams said:

Homework Statement



|x+3|+|x-1| = 5


Homework Equations



absolute value = distance from origin
distance between 2 points on a line = |x1-x2|

so |x+3| can be viewed as the distance from x to -3
and |x-1| can be viewed as the distance from x to 1

so we are trying to find a point x which has a distance from -3 and a distance from 1 that combine to equal 5...

The Attempt at a Solution



The options that add up to equal 5 are (0+5), (5+0), (2+3), (3+2), (1+4), (4+1)

if |x+3| = 0, then x=-3... that gives 4 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 5, then x=2 or -8... that gives 6 and 14 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 3, then x=0 or -6... that gives 4 and 10 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 2, then x=-1 or -5... that gives 4 and 8 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 1, then x=-2 or -4... that gives 4 and 6 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 4, then x=1 or -7... that gives 4 and 12 instead of 5


^ not only is that a really inefficient way to try to solve it. but I also couldn't get the answer! :(

can someone please tell me a way to solve these problems?
So the approach is not only ineffecient, but ineffective as well.

Divide the number line into three intervals: (-∞, -3), (-3, 1), and (1, ∞)

If x is in (-∞, -3), the equation can be written as -(x + 3) + -(x - 1) = 5. Can you solve this?

Now look at the resulting equation in each of the other two intervals.

The basic idea I am using is that |x - a| = -(x -a) if x < a, and |x - a| = x - a if x > a.
 
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nickadams said:

Homework Statement



|x+3|+|x-1| = 5


Homework Equations



absolute value = distance from origin
distance between 2 points on a line = |x1-x2|

so |x+3| can be viewed as the distance from x to -3
and |x-1| can be viewed as the distance from x to 1

so we are trying to find a point x which has a distance from -3 and a distance from 1 that combine to equal 5...

The Attempt at a Solution



The options that add up to equal 5 are (0+5), (5+0), (2+3), (3+2), (1+4), (4+1)

if |x+3| = 0, then x=-3... that gives 4 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 5, then x=2 or -8... that gives 6 and 14 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 3, then x=0 or -6... that gives 4 and 10 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 2, then x=-1 or -5... that gives 4 and 8 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 1, then x=-2 or -4... that gives 4 and 6 instead of 5
if |x+3| = 4, then x=1 or -7... that gives 4 and 12 instead of 5


^ not only is that a really inefficient way to try to solve it. but I also couldn't get the answer! :(

can someone please tell me a way to solve these problems?
"not only is that a really inefficient way to try to solve it... " True !

An instructive way to solve it (in my opinion) is to graph y = |x+3|+|x-1| .

Alternatively,
consider the piecewise definition of the absolute value.

Consider separately the graphs: y = |x+3|, and y = |x-1| .​
 
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Mark44 said:
So the approach is not only ineffecient, but ineffective as well.

Divide the number line into three intervals: (-∞, -3), (-3, 1), and (1, ∞)

If x is in (-∞, -3), the equation can be written as -(x + 3) + -(x - 1) = 5. Can you solve this?

Now look at the resulting equation in each of the other two intervals.

The basic idea I am using is that |x - a| = -(x -a) if x < a, and |x - a| = x - a if x > a.

Ok great!

so if x <= -3 ... -3-x+1-x = 5 ; (ans: x=-7/2)

if 1 >= x >= -3 ... x+3+1-x = 5 (0=1 :frown: ) I realize that this indicates there is no solution for x in this interval but is there anything else to be learned from the result or should I just accept it as indicating no answer in the interval?

if x > 1 ... x+3+x-1 = 5 ; (ans: x=3/2)
 
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nickadams said:
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if 1 >= x >= -3 ... x+3+1-x = 5 (0=1 :frown: ) I realize that this indicates there is no solution for x in this interval but is there anything else to be learned from the result or should I just accept it as indicating no answer in the interval?
...

Notice that everywhere on this interval, x+3+1-x = 4. So, it can's be 5.
 

1. What is the meaning of the absolute value symbols in this equation?

The absolute value symbols, denoted by | |, indicate the distance of a number from zero on a number line. In this equation, they represent the distance of the expression within the symbols from zero.

2. How do I solve for x in this equation?

To solve for x, we need to isolate the absolute value expressions and then consider two cases: when the expressions within the absolute value symbols are positive and when they are negative. We can then solve for x in each case separately and find the solutions that satisfy the original equation.

3. What are the possible values of x in this equation?

There can be up to four possible values of x that satisfy this equation, depending on the values of the expressions within the absolute value symbols. We can determine these values by solving for x in the two cases mentioned above.

4. Can I use any algebraic method to solve this equation?

Yes, you can use algebraic methods such as the addition and subtraction properties of equality, the distributive property, and the multiplication property of equality to isolate the absolute value expressions and solve for x.

5. How can I check my solutions for this equation?

To check your solutions, you can substitute them back into the original equation and see if they satisfy it. You can also graph the left and right sides of the equation separately and see where they intersect, as the points of intersection will be the solutions.

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