Is infinity minus infinity equal to a finite number?

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In summary, the answer to the question "x+(∞)+(-∞) = x? true?" is undefined, according to the FAQ. However, in certain situations, it may be possible to determine an answer for this type of integral. It is important to note that adding and subtracting infinity is an indeterminate form and should not be used. In order to better understand the situation, it would be helpful to know the specific function being integrated. In the example provided, the areas under the graphs of three different functions (a small bump function, |x|+1, and -|x|) produce areas of A, ∞, and -∞, respectively. When these functions are added and then integrated,
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Title says it all.. is: x+(∞)+(-∞) = x? true?

In the case of an integral broken up over three additions and one yields a number, one yields infinity, the other negative infinity, do the infinities cancel?
 
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The FAQ does say that it is undefined, but in the integral I am working on it should be possible to come up with an answer in the situation that causes it to arise.
 
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You shouldn't ever try to add and subtract infinity (it's undefined really). This is one of those indeterminate forms that shouldn't be used. You should be taking the limit of the difference between the two integrals as you approach your bounds.

If you could tell us what you were integrating, that would help tremendously. Once the function is known, more specific help can be given to you.
 
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I guess it's that I don't really understand how to use 0+ in the case of like, 1/sin(x), how does that area not add up to infinity? over the range of 0 - pi for instance
 
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Zula110100100 said:
I guess it's that I don't really understand how to use 0+ in the case of like, 1/sin(x), how does that area not add up to infinity? over the range of 0 - pi for instance

Hey Zula110100100 and welcome to the forums.

Have you (or are you) doing improper integrals?
 
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Clearly not. Take 3 functions, one a small bump function at the origin (with area, say, A), one which is |x|+1 and one which is -|x|.

The areas under the graphs of these 3 are A, ∞ and -∞, respectively. Add the functions together and then take the integral- the function will look like f(x)=1 almost everywhere and will have ∞ as the integral, not A.
 

1. What does "X+(∞)+(-∞) = x" mean?

This equation represents the sum of a finite value (represented by X) and two infinite values, one positive and one negative. The result of this sum is equal to the original finite value, X.

2. How can something be both infinite and negative or positive at the same time?

In mathematics, infinity is defined as a concept, rather than a specific number. This means that it is not bound by the same rules as finite numbers. In this equation, the positive and negative infinities cancel each other out, resulting in a finite value.

3. Can this equation be used with any value for X?

Yes, this equation can be used with any finite value for X, as long as the positive and negative infinities are included as well. However, it is important to note that this equation is not used very often in practical applications.

4. What is the significance of this equation in mathematics?

This equation is often used as an example of how infinity can behave differently than finite numbers. It also demonstrates the concept of mathematical limits, where the result of a function approaches a certain value as the input approaches infinity.

5. Is this equation always true?

Yes, this equation is always true, as long as the values for X, positive infinity, and negative infinity are all included. This is a fundamental property of infinity and is a key concept in calculus and other branches of mathematics.

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