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Yeah, Saddams caught all well and good

  1. Dec 15, 2003 #1

    amp

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    Now how about putting at least as much effort into catching Bin Laden. After all he MASTERMINDED the 9/11 attack! In fact he should have been first priority.

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  3. Dec 15, 2003 #2

    Njorl

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    Bin Laden will be much harder to find. He does not need to hide from his own people.
     
  4. Dec 15, 2003 #3

    GENIERE

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    In a way, I think I prefer that we only act as if we are putting a large effort into locating and executing Bin Laden. I enjoy my mental image of him cowering in a rat hole. Of course he has had time to dig an improved rat hole, equipping it with creature comforts and providing for the occasional carnal visit.

    When captured, I would prefer him not to be executed, but to be held in isolation with the best of medical care to prolong his life for as long as possible. He will spend the rest of his miserable existence staring at stark, pastel green colored, sound insulated, padded walls; No books, no TV, no phone, no window, no human contact; just an army cot, a pot, and forced exercise to maintain a healthy body. Mental health is not an issue as he is already a demented person nor need he be provided with religious material as he, obviously, does not follow the tenets of his faith. Perhaps several portraits of President Bush should adorn the walls. Amnesty International will be allowed to visit on an annual basis, reporting his status to the world. A.I. will not be allowed to inform him about world events.
     
  5. Dec 15, 2003 #4

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    There is a real possibility that bin Laden is dead. First he produced videos from hiding, then sound tapes, and he sounded weaker in the tapes than he had in the videos. For quite a while there has been nothing.
     
  6. Dec 15, 2003 #5

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    i WOULDN'T WANT TO PROVOKE 'IM BUT ...

    That could just mean him may be planning some new nastiness for US.
     
  7. Dec 15, 2003 #6
    ? (911 Myths)

    Wake-up People!

    The US only wanted Afghanistan for the oil pipeline and the drugs;
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1984459.stm
    http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/afghan/2002/0227poppy.htm
    They didn’t tell you it was coming (or expected);
    http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2002/explanatory-reporting/works/093001.html
    Have some more;
    http://www.rense.com/general27/911.htm
    http://www.konformist.com/911/osama-bush.htm
    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/linkscopy/RSblowback.html
    http://www.time.com/time/photoessays/crossfire/

    Honestly, the brainwashing perpetrated on the general public "out there" is scaring the piss out of me. Surely people don't still believe that frail bearded guy masterminded 911?
     
  8. Dec 16, 2003 #7

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    Re: ? (911 Myths)

    So which is mentally incapacitating, being frail or being bearded? I hope it is being frail, because I have a beard myself.

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  9. Dec 16, 2003 #8
    Re: ? (911 Myths)


    Your response here is so predictable - conspiracy theories again..

    Your right though, the CIA blew up the twin towers, NASA faked the moon landings, Bush stole the Iraqi Oil, Elvis lives....

    Is everything in your world proof of a great conspiracy? Anyway, according to an earlier posting of yours, Bush has invaded Iraq 'just for the Oil' so what the hell does he need a pipeline through Afghanistan for? The American's rule Iraq, its oilfields and its ports already.....

    Mind you, I did hear that Bush is out selling 'Afghanie Black' and Heroin on the streets around the White House at nights, so you could be right..... Oh, and also I heard that Bin Laden is really Santa Claus in his non-christmas gear, helping to send peace and goodwill to all. Or was this just some bollox I read on a trashy website?

    I've also heard that all the succesful suicide bombers were framed by the CIA and were actually not-guilty of any crime! It was Mossad that blew them up..... probably.


    Has it EVER crossed your mind Nosense Prime that maybe, just maybe, a western politician has occasionally acted in a decent and honest way, trying to do their best in an unfair and complicated world? Or is this idea just too far-fetched for you?
     
  10. Dec 16, 2003 #9
    Who's The Loon Mate?

    Strange that a Nazi can explain it better than most;
    “Why of course the people don’t want war… But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship… Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
    - Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II.

    This is my attempt to spoon-feed empathically challenged Americans and Brits, who can’t seem to process reality;
    In 1986 the CIA built an UNDERGROUND CAMP AT KHOST for Osama bin Laden (WITH USA TAXPAYER MONEY). It was specifically constructed to TRAIN recruits from across the ISLAMIC WORLD IN GUERILLA WARFARE). Refer to this November 13, 2000 article;
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,397911,00.html

    The US was NEVER under attack from bin Laden.
    Here’s the sad and shocking reality (turn away if you can’t handle it);
    (1) The USA attacked Afghanistan FIRST (in an undeclared and unprovoked attack). On August 20, 1998 the USA sea-launched Cruise Missiles. This was an illegal attack under ALL international law. Period. If no Peace Treaty is signed, then Afghanistan is ENTITLED to attack the USA (without warning).
    Unprovoked Simultaneous Sea-launched Cruise Missile Attacks on Afghanistan and Sudan (and Pakistan, by accident) by the USA (August 20, 1998);
    http://www.ishipress.com/osamasur.htm
    They liked it so much, they did an encore 1 week ago;
    http://www.dawn.com/2003/12/10/top12.htm
    (2) Clinton ordered the CIA to assassinate bin Laden (by using proxy Afghan terrorist allies) in 1998 (despite Executive Orders which prohibit this).
    (See previous links posted.)
    (3)The USA SABOTAGED (physically, mechanically and financially) Afghanistan’s national airline in 1998 (using the bogus claim that Al Qaeda used the planes to smuggle paper money around the world. I reckon that’s the biggest load of **** I’ve ever heard – they don’t even try with their “cover stories” anymore!)
    (See previous links posted.)
    These are FACTS. Get used to them.

    Now, let’s reverse the situation;
    (1) Afghan Destroyers (yes I know they don’t have any) covertly birth off the coast of Florida. Their Navy has been ordered to attack a Church Hall, where they believe a meeting is taking place between Bush (an undemocratically elected leader – he lost) and his Hawks. The Afghans launch Cruise Missiles toward the Church Hall (without warning). The Cruise Missiles miss and take out a Childcare Centre (killing about 100 infants and maiming the rest). The USA lodges a protest with the UN, claiming the Afghans have committed an ACT OF WAR. The Afghans (who hold “a fictional” VETO in the UN) simply veto the Resolution, and the UN is powerless to do anything to the Afghans.
    Then the Afghans deny the event even ever took place. The Afghans churn out propaganda to the world that the Childcare Centre which they destroyed (woops!) was really a Chemical Production Plant (and the headquarters of the Democrat or Republican Party, or whatever). Needless to say, the citizens of the USA become pretty pissed off about it all. They see that the world will never grant them justice, they decide to take things into their own hands. A COUPLE of psychos USE the criminal acts perpetrated by the Afghans to create a splinter-cell (like your MILITIAS), funds pour in from those who seek retribution, and you have what we see today.
     
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  11. Dec 16, 2003 #10
    You Only Get What You Give

    Quote from;
    http://rwor.org/a/v23/1120-29/1120/afghanistan.htm
    “On August 20, 1998, President Bill Clinton sent 75 cruise missiles pounding into rural Afghanistan--supposedly targeting Osama Bin Laden. The raid killed children gathered in a village school and left a local mosque in ruins. And after that, bin Laden's portrait appeared on even more walls, especially among Muslim youth who are bitterly disenchanted with a world dominated, perverted and robbed by the U.S.

    As we go to press, the former "freedom fighters" of Ronald Reagan are now the "terrorists" of George W. Bush. And Pentagon generals are now consulting their former adversaries--the defeated generals of the Soviet Army--about how to fight in Afghanistan.

    In the midst of all this intrigue, the people of the world cry out for an end to the brutal imperialist domination of the Middle East--and the rest of the planet.”

    I ask you all. Whats worse? 75 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles raining down randomly from the sky or 3 or 4 planes being used as suicide weapons? Can it be compared – sure it can.
    Comments?

    Cop some more, from;
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0923-01.htm
    “During the Cold War in the 1980s, billions in weaponry and military training was funneled by the CIA, through Pakistan, to the Afghans fighting against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

    Out of that CIA-backed resistance emerged the Taliban, which today controls most of Afghanistan and the sprawling terrorist enterprise controlled by Osama bin Laden, whom the Taliban is believed to be harboring.”

    By the way, the CIA (Al Qaeda is actually a sub-branch of the CIA. It was created, funded, trained AND protected by the CIA) and MOSSAD are the two largest terrorist organisations in the world, but I couldn’t be stuffed proving it to the automatons.
     
  12. Dec 16, 2003 #11
    US Foreign Policy for Idiots

    Posted by the All-Knowing Pawn;
    “…according to an earlier posting of yours, Bush has invaded Iraq ‘just for the Oil’ so what the hell does he need a pipeline through Afghanistan for? The American’s rule Iraq, its oilfields and its ports already…..”

    I’m sorry Adrian, some times I forget people are intellectually challenged.
    Ok. Heres a link to the map of the region, you goose.
    Notice how Iran cradles Afghanistan. Iraq is next to Iran. The USA invaded Afghanistan first, then Iraq. Getting the picture yet? Its not that difficult…
    http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/afghan.html

    Here’s a basic timeline for you;
    http://www.ringnebula.com/Oil/Timeline.htm

    Do you still need some help working it out? If you do, go have a lobotomy, it might help.

    Some info about the USA Cruise Missile;
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/155526.stm
     
  13. Dec 17, 2003 #12

    amp

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    It's no ues Nommos Prime...

    They will keep believing this Admin spins out, hard as it is to believe there are some(many) who are thinking Saddam was behind 9/11 or had a hand in it (<--a possibility).
    Exactly, and thats been done in quite a few other countries.
     
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