Exploring Yellowstone's Fallout: Global Wind Patterns & Planet Effects

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In summary, this volcano is huge and has the potential to cause a lot of damage, but luckily it's not likely to happen for a while yet.
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I live in the midwest, but have always drooled westward. The only thing that keeps me from moving out there is the hazard map I once saw if the caldera explodes. Even the midwest might be too close. My question isn't about where to live, I'm just emphasizing the enormous potential this volcano has. Has anyone seen the videos on SpaceWeather com of Redoubt's ash cloud? I never really considered global wind patterns, 'doh. Would Yellowstone's fallout move more eastward than in a circular pattern as the hazard map suggests? Obviously, no one can run from a catastrophe that large, so it doesn't matter where you live...not my point.
I'm also curious about the equal and opposite reaction. What effect would the force of the explosion have on the planet as an orbiting body?
 
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Historic ashfall patterns from large volcanic eruptions in N.A:
http://dma.mt.gov/des/Library/PDM/PDM-Final%20Draft/Volcanic%20Eruptions%20Hazard%20Profile.pdf [Broken]

I don't know how you define midwest, but places like Nebraska got substantial ashfall - see fig 3.3.6-2.

Also note the historic eruption intervals - 2 Million you & 630000 ya, about 1.4 M years apart. This doesn't preclude Yellowstone from erupting 5 days from now, but the odds of an eruption are not worth worrying about.

More importantly, if there were an eruption it would affect the economics and climate of NA and Europe - the Northern Hemisphere really. So living in Maine or Florida would not help you that much. Try Antarctica.

google for 'pinatubo' - Mount Pinatubo erupted in 1991 and effects on the atmosphere were noted globally -

McCormick, M. Patrick et al. (1995). "Atmospheric effects of the Mt Pinatubo eruption". Nature 373: 399–404

Pinatubo is not a supervolcano, Yellowstone is considered one in newspaper-speak anyway. I believe any eruption with a VEI >= 8 is called a super eruption by Volcanologists. Pinatubo was VEI = 6. The last Yellowstone eruption was orders of magnitude larger, in terms of volume of ejecta.

see - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_Explosivity_Index
 
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At one time, I would have recommended New Zealand as the best place to avoid the fall out of super eruption at Yellowstone. However, then I found out that the latest super eruption actually occurred in New Zealand. The Oruanui eruption occurred 26,000 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oruanui_eruption


There was also the Lake Tobo eruption 73,000 years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Toba


Also, keep in mind that Yellowstone has lots of smaller eruptions as well. So, the next eruption at Yellowstone won't necessarily be the end of civilization. However, I'm sure that the press will make it sound that way.
 
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jim mcnamara said:
Also note the historic eruption intervals - 2 Million you & 630000 ya, about 1.4 M years apart. This doesn't preclude Yellowstone from erupting 5 days from now, but the odds of an eruption are not worth worrying about.

This omits the huge eruption about 1.3 Mya ago, which formed the Henry's Fork caldera. That eruption involved an estimated 280 cubic kilometers! It was slightly larger than the most recent super-eruption about 0.63 Mya BP.

If you assume a nice regular cycle, the super eruptions are at 2Mya, 1.3Mya and 0.63 Mya. We are due for the next big eruption now. However, on the time scales used, this is now plus or minus 50 to 100 thousand years. So I'm not panicking. If it blows, it will be very bad; but even assuming it's on the way in geological terms, it's still not something we are particularly likely to see first hand.

Cheers -- Sylas
 
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This is a bit Hollywood but I can't resist: has anyone studied the feasibility of preventing or mitigating a VEI 8 eruption? At first thought it would be about the energy: either disrupt the engine generating the energy, or discharge the energy in some low(er) power form. Seems like this would rate as much discussion as early warning on large meteorites.
 
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What you could do is change the orbit of a small asteroid so that it will impact exactly at Yellowstone. An asteroid of about a kilometer in diameter would probably be enough to trigger a premature eruption.

A few decades before this planned event, we start to evacuate the US and we store enough food to deal with the effects on the climate that will disrupt agriculture for some years.
 
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Count Iblis said:
What you could do is change the orbit of a small asteroid so that it will impact exactly at Yellowstone. An asteroid of about a kilometer in diameter would probably be enough to trigger a premature eruption.

A few decades before this planned event, we start to evacuate the US and we store enough food to deal with the effects on the climate that will disrupt agriculture for some years.

Directing an asteroid safely to a spot on the map sounds like a tall order. I'd hope that within just a few thousand years we'll have a technology to pacify volcanoes altogether. It didn't take long for us to put someone on the moon.

So, it's largely the ash fallout that would be the killer. How about coming up with something to direct or collect the ash? (Yes, I understand how much ash that can be. I'm looking to the distant future.)
 
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havonasun said:
I'm also curious about the equal and opposite reaction. What effect would the force of the explosion have on the planet as an orbiting body?

An explosion of that magnitude will shift the orbit of the planet slightly, just as you suspect. The length of day was altered by the Christmas day Sumatra earthquake (by about 5 microseconds...) as measured by the GRACE satellites. It also shifted the position of the pole slightly, but I don't know that value. There is enough movement of mass in these scenarios to slightly shift the moment of Earth. Of course it's tiny, but it is measurable.

Also, earthquakes of that magnitude act like an impulse. Thus earthquakes like that cause the Earth to "ring" like a bell--not in our acoustic range but on a period of roughly one hour for days and sometimes weeks.
 

1. How does Yellowstone's fallout affect global wind patterns?

The massive eruption of Yellowstone volcano would release a large amount of ash and gases into the atmosphere. This would create a layer of particles in the stratosphere that can impact global wind patterns. The ash and gases can also affect the Earth's climate by reflecting sunlight and causing cooling temperatures.

2. What are the main gases and particles released during a volcanic eruption?

The main gases released during a volcanic eruption are water vapor, carbon dioxide, sulfur dioxide, and hydrogen sulfide. The particles released are mostly ash, but can also include other materials such as pumice, rock fragments, and glass shards.

3. How do global wind patterns impact the spread of volcanic ash?

Global wind patterns, also known as jet streams, can carry volcanic ash thousands of miles away from the eruption site. The direction and strength of these winds can determine the path of the ash plume and how far it will travel. High-altitude winds can also distribute the ash across different regions and continents.

4. What are the potential planet-wide effects of a massive volcanic eruption?

A massive volcanic eruption, like the one that occurred at Yellowstone thousands of years ago, could have significant impacts on the entire planet. It can cause global cooling due to the ash and gases blocking sunlight, leading to changes in weather patterns and potential crop failures. The eruption can also affect air travel, as ash particles can damage airplane engines and disrupt flight routes.

5. How do scientists study and predict the effects of volcanic eruptions on global wind patterns?

Scientists use various methods to study and predict the effects of volcanic eruptions on global wind patterns. They use satellite imagery, computer models, and weather data to track the movement of ash plumes and predict where they will go. Additionally, ground-based sensors and air quality measurements can provide real-time information about the composition of volcanic ash and gases.

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