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Young's Modulus of 3 Metals

  1. Mar 10, 2017 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    hi guys

    I am conducting an experiment for my coursework in physics and i have come across a bit of a problem. i am trying to calculate the youngs modulus of 3 different metals Aluminium steel and brass. To calculate the modulus of the material i am using a chart of Mass k/g against the deflection thus giving me the gradient.

    i am going wrong somwhere as i am getting a result of double the normal GPa for each item i.e 320Gpa instead of 140. see below data and charts that i have created.

    2. Relevant equations

    S=L3/WT3 which is 1796850000 for all metal strips
    E=4Sg x gradient of graph

    3. The attempt at a solution
    Here is a printscreen of my results, have i graphed them correctly?
    upload_2017-3-10_11-53-17.png
     
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  3. Mar 10, 2017 #2
    Can you please define the variables in your equations, and also tell us the type of supports and the location of the load in your beam deflection experiments.
     
  4. Mar 10, 2017 #3
    Hi chestermiller
    Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
    The variables are
    L=o.33
    W=0.025
    T=0.001
    All are in metres. We used a simple g clamp and measured from the point of suspension.

    Hope this clears it up a bit.
     
  5. Mar 10, 2017 #4
    So, it is a cantilevered beam, right? What does g stand for in your equation?
     
  6. Mar 10, 2017 #5
    Yes it is.it is for gravity
     
  7. Mar 10, 2017 #6
    I get a different value than you for S. And, those deflections can't be in meters. At most, they are in cm.

    I confirm your equation for the modulus.
     
  8. Mar 10, 2017 #7
    hi chestermiller

    ah i seee i rounded 0.025 to 0.02, not sure why, it should be 1437480000. the Deflection is in metres i think the table results are unclear. the deflections are on the left. as i have done P0 -P50 etc so with 50 grams on the beam gives a deflection of 1cm or 0.01 mtrs. the only problem is that the GPa for steel is arround 200GPa. given my gradient is 5.4457 then my GPa for steel is 5.4457x9.81x4x1437480000=3.07x10^11 to 2 dp. which is 307GPa, even factoring in my error percentage which is arround 12 percent which is 36.86 GPa it is no where near the known value. should i be worried about this?

    Many Thanks

    Edward Trail
     
  9. Mar 10, 2017 #8
    How accurate is Rhee thickness? Could it be 1.1 mm?
     
  10. Mar 10, 2017 #9
    i used a pair of verniers which measures to a thousanth of a mm but the only problem was the angle at which the verniers gripped the beams. as it did vary from 1mm to 1.3 dependant on the agnle, do you think this could be the issue?
     
  11. Mar 10, 2017 #10
    What is 1.3 to the 3rd power?
     
  12. Mar 10, 2017 #11
    oh i think that is what the problem is i have just calculated it for 1.3mm thickness and found out that my GPa is now 1.398x10^11 which is pretty close when considering my error percentage. i think im going to have to measure the thickness again for each one
     
  13. Mar 10, 2017 #12
    It looks like you've got it figured out.
     
  14. Mar 10, 2017 #13
    okay so ive just re measured them now its only a slight difference but noted down more decimal points does it check out for you. its now within the range of the recomended GPA of each material.
    upload_2017-3-10_20-32-25.png

    sorry if the image is blurry i can zoom in if needed
     
  15. Mar 10, 2017 #14
    I can't read it too well. But, in my judgment, you've pretty well analyzed this as much as it will permit.
     
  16. Mar 10, 2017 #15
    Thanks very much ill mark this as resolved

    cheers
     
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