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Engineering Find the Canonical Equation for the Dieterici Equation of State
It appears that this response is referring to another source. Is that at the listed website cisco?- Chetty
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Engineering Find the Canonical Equation for the Dieterici Equation of State
In Elements of Gasdynamics the author describes what he calls The Canonical Equation of State where (∂E∂S)v=T and (∂E∂V)s=−P He does a simple one for a perfect gas and uses the enthalpy(T,V) for the Canonical Equation of state. Now he asks to find the Canonical Equation of State for E(V,S)...- Chetty
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
Got another one. In Elements of Gasdynamics the author describes what he calls The Canonical Equation of State where ##(\frac {∂E} {∂S} )_v=T## and ##(\frac {∂E} {∂V} )_s=-P## He does a simple one for a perfect gas and uses the enthalpy(T,V) for the Canonical Equation of state. Now he...- Chetty
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
I agree that is more succinct and directly shows the positive nature . I provide the answer as provided by Zemansky. I believe Zemansky likes to present his answers in disguise so the student has to work to understand.- Chetty
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
Thanks for the hint. In your absence I had moved on with the problem and agree with your hint. Turns out the change in entropy you refer to is zero and this determines the T star. $$T^*=\frac {T_i^2} {T_2}$$ Doing the heat balance $$W=C_p[T^*-T_i]-C_p[T_i-T_2]=C_p[\frac {T_i^2}...- Chetty
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
My difficulty is with my post #9 showing Zemansky's complete solution to this problem. It shows not logarithms of temperature ratios.- Chetty
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
I think I understand all that you high lite, but I am trying to understand Zemansky's answer. If I understand correctly, a refrigerator is operating between two identical bodies and is extracting heat from one and adding the extracted heat to the other body. The fact that this is under...- Chetty
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
I can rewrite their answer so it makes a little more sense but not sure why the log function is not used for the entropy? $$W_(min)=C_p\left[\frac {T_i(T_i-T_2)} {T_2}-(T_i-T_2)\right]$$- Chetty
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
Now I have a different question: In the text by Zemansky, in chapter 10, exercise problem 10.14 the following question is asked; "Two identical bodies of constant heat capacity are at same initial temperature Ti. A refrigerator operates between these two bodies until one body is cooled to the...- Chetty
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
Found a better answer. Starting with: $$dP=(\frac {∂P} {∂ρ})_s dρ+(\frac {∂P} {∂s})_ρ ds=(\frac {∂P} {∂ρ})_T dρ+(\frac {∂P} {∂T})_ρ dT$$ Write the sum of partials of enthalpy in variables P and T Use this in the the expression of dh-vdp=0 (dq=ds=0 for isentropic) From this extract ##(\frac...- Chetty
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
I think I may have it but feel a little uneasy with the resulting expression:##(\frac {∂P} {∂T})_ρ=-(\frac {∂P} {∂ρ})_T (\frac {∂ρ} {∂T})_P## Working all the expressions comes down to the above and if true then I have the proof. The letters and symbols after the parenthesis are the variables to...- Chetty
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
This is my latest result, not what I was hoping for but maybe all that is achievable. Set ds=0 and used full expressions for the specific heats. Anyone have any suggestions for improvements? The text does not ask for a derivation but only to show that the expression is valid. The expression...- Chetty
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
In the first equation, the last term is the partial of p relative to ρ holding temperature T constant.- Chetty
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Manipulation of a Thermodynamic Relation
##(\frac {∂p} {∂ρ})_s=ϒ(\frac {∂p} {∂ρ})_T## The variables are p for pressure, ρ for specific mass density and γ is ratio of specific heats. I am able to show that the relation is valid for a perfect gas but cannot show its validity in general. The closest I get is ##dp=(\frac {∂p} {∂ρ})_s...- Chetty
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Find the equilibrium position of this piston
I just read your write up on entropy and have another question. When I asked earlier about the change in entropy for the piston problem we were working on, you mentioned that entropy was a state variable which seems accurate and I interpret it to mean that for an equilibrium condition there is...- Chetty
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help