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I think neither option quite follows. The future swap does not need to cause the earlier A/D outcomes, and the earlier outcomes do not... -
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It's common in consistent histories literature, where you are often chaining many projectors together. See e.g. equation (2) in... -
Demystifier replied to the thread Undergrad Entanglement swapping and Bohmian mechanics.I would say that the swap operation implies the A/D entanglement. The difference is that "implication" is logical rather than physical... -
Demystifier replied to the thread Undergrad Entanglement swapping and Bohmian mechanics.Just a minor notational nitpicking. Is this your own notation, or have you seen it somewhere else? Wouldn't it be more common to use the... -
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I think I understand it better now. Thank you for your patience! :smile: Let me explain further and tell me if I'm wrong. If many runs... -
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To explicitly model* the measurement of 2 and 3 first, we would include the apparatus degrees of freedom and trace over them... -
Demystifier replied to the thread Undergrad Entanglement swapping and Bohmian mechanics.One more point, that points to the core of the confusion. To decide whether a certain state in the Hilbert space ##{\cal H}## is... -
Demystifier replied to the thread Undergrad Entanglement swapping and Bohmian mechanics.If I have to choose one of those, I choose i). You cannot actually observe the A/D correlation before you do the swap. The data from... -
Demystifier replied to the thread Undergrad Entanglement swapping and Bohmian mechanics.I think now the real issue is this. If the interaction between B and C happens after the measurement of A and D, are A and D entangled... -
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@PeterDonis in the closed thread you ask me about a reference for the claim that the quantum potential is not considered fundamental in... -
Demystifier replied to the thread Undergrad Entanglement swapping and Bohmian mechanics.@PeterDonis you are right, the word "spurious" was not appropriate. -
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Is the word "spurious" really justified here? After all, when B and C come together just before ##t_2##, B is entangled with the A... -
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Note, though, that you have to do postselection of the data from the A and D measurements regardless of whether A and D are measured... -
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If you are carrying out the textbook standard QM calculation of unitary evolution -> measurement -> collapse (preparation) -> unitary... -
Demystifier replied to the thread Undergrad Entanglement swapping and Bohmian mechanics.There is no action to the past. Suppose that at time ##t_1## you measure A and D, and later at ##t_2>t_1## put B and C into the...