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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    I mean that everything we know about how the brain functions can be fully explained with classical physics and biology. We simply don't need quantum mechanics to describe any of the brain's physical processes. Since consciousness is an emergent property of those exact same processes, it's my...
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    Saying "you know what it looks like" isn't a definition, it's just pointing at the phenomenon. To me, that experience simply is the physical process happening in the neural network. The same way we validate anything in science. If my exact neural pattern when looking at red structurally matches...
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    Did I say that? In the very next sentence I explicitly said "in my opinion," which I would presume people can read to mean it's just my opinion that we don't need quantum mechanics to explain it. How do you know it cannot? If our internal experiences are entirely tied to our physical brain...
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    They exist, they are just not needed to explain consciousness. In my opinion classical physics and biology is enough to explain the physical processes in the brain that give raise to emergent phenomenon we call consciousness. We don't have the full explanation yet simply because of the sheer...
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    I don't see how I'm blurring the difference, I'm just using standard definitions. A single frozen state isn't a process, but the continuous evolution of those states is. Why does being deterministic mean it has to be a "passive observer"? A computer program driving a car isn't passively...
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    For me, treating "subjective experience" and "objective state" as two separate things is just a red herring. Every experience anyone has ever had stems from processes in the brain. I think it's really up to those who want to separate them to explain why that separation is more logical. As for...
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    I think you are taking my AI analogy a bit too literally. When I say the brain is an incredibly complex computing machine, I am not talking about a desktop CPU with discrete clock cycles and RAM. The brain is an analog computer. The chemistry and electrical potentials don't update in discrete...
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    I think we are just getting caught up on the word "state". When I say "physical brain state," I don't mean a frozen, static photograph. I mean it in the physical and computational sense. Think of it like the AI machine analogy: when an AI processes a live video feed, its internal state is...
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    Yes comparing subjective experiences is the same as comparing brain patterns (in the crude sense of the word). Clearly you do not accept that subjective experiences are emergent physical pattern. I do. I do not know, but this is actually a massive area of current research. For example a...
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    Fair point, my wording was a bit sloppy there. Let me be precise: I am arguing they are exactly the same thing. The subjective experience is the complex emergent pattern of the physical brain. It is the same thing, if you accept the premise that the subjective experience is the emergent...
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    I agree there is no 1:1 mapping of neurons, but I don't think we need one. There is no 1:1 mapping of water molecules between two cups of water, but we can still objectively define, measure, and compare their temperature. Temperature is an emergent property. I see subjective experience the same...
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    Yes, I am actually arguing exactly that. For me, consciousness and subjective experience are emergent phenomena of the physical brain state. So even the subjective experience is a manifestation happening due to physical processes in the brain.
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    You probably also mean that my perception of a red object might be a slightly different hue than yours, or that seeing red triggers a completely different emotional feeling for you than it does for me. But I don't think that makes it impossible to describe or compare objectively. If someone...
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    Undergrad Do photons have mass? Why not?

    It will, but because energy is frame dependent the "gamma" ray will not be in the gamma energy range in this reference frame. It could be in the radio energy range.
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    How do atoms build thoughts and emotions?

    For me consciousness is an emergent phenomenon of higher and higher number of self-interaction neurons. There is no one neuron, one molecule that will be found responsible for consciousness. In that manner I actually see the brain more like an AI machine, where the brain has orders of magnitude...