Recent content by WhatIfMachine

I think I've heard of such a place... hm... could it be radioshack?

I get that now, that's why I am trying to end this thread. see now this is what I meant by I don't accept the reasons of failure from a person who doesn't even understand what my point is... you didnt read the link did you? I can't read all of these posts coming up now, so for real this...

Perpetual Motion: A mechanical motion that produces more energy than consumed the high vibration that keeps the gas a gas and not a liquid/solid? *sigh* let me quote it again... how do you think that happened? magic? it doesn't say it uses energy, but what else would it use? I still...

its just a conversation, no need to coach me in my beliefs power/energy same difference and I am pretty sure you know what I meant :P

http://psionix.forumcircle.com/viewtopic.php?t=855&start=75 "but I get your point. so now this board is dead? if you agree, you might as well not reply" my "rebuttal comebacks" is me saying I understand why it doesn't work and that I don't want to pointlessly fight you, but you keep...

The air has energy. The air is being used by the machine. The air is part of the closed system. in which case you don't have to worry about getting more energy form outside a closed system because all the necessary energy is inside the system already. I will only read your links because I...

but its not as closed as he implied, so it still doesn't matter. there is still air surrounding the Dyson fan, and that's all that matters

do you really need to argue about this? yet AGAIN it is NOT perpetual motion, so none of that matters.

well, if that really has anything to do with it, put it outside. any other challenges? in case you haven't noticed I am persistant/ignorant and you might want to take this oppurtunity to say I accept my failure.

thats the kicker, its not a closed system. that's why I don't straight out call this a perpetual machine. the extra energy was suppose to come from the surrounding air as it was dragged by the breeze from the Dyson fan which was I thought was a regular fan that was remade to be highly energy...

so the last few quotes reguarding Dyson and turbines are meaningless? might I direct your attention to the quote of said link in the top post of this page? "Dyson claims the Air Multiplier increases the output of airflow by 15 times the amount it takes in through the pedestal's motor."

I quoted that straight from Dyson http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/other-gadgets/dyson-bladeless-fan1.htm

Dyson knows full well you can't put a wind turbine in front of their fan and use it to power it (if only the original flow was great enough), which is in effect what you claimed in your first post. oh so you happen to know what Dyson does in their labs? I thought they where all about vacuums...

It boils down to physics. While it's true that the atmosphere is gaseous, gases obey the physical laws of fluid dynamics. As air flows through the slits in the tube and out through the front of the fan, air behind the fan is drawn through the tube as well. This is called inducement. The flowing...

He didn't say 15 was a small number, it said it was meaningless. Numbers mean nothing by them selves, they have to have some association with units. but it does have an association with a unit. 1/15 of the amount of power it takes to power a regular fan (so I don't want to buy a fan just to...