Are there separate definitions for beliefs then? In the example I gave of believing Zeus will get home - there is no evidence for. But there there is evidence that the ball will bounce back to the same height...
I agree with every thing else you said! Spot on.
Thank you for the response! I hear what you are saying. And I tend to fall into arguments where I catch myself trying to change a persons view by force. Which of course leads to a headache because really...how often does a person (especially on a public forum) fall down and admit they are wrong...
I'm not sure I agree. Believing that zeus will get me home safely tonight is very different then believing that if I bounce a ball 10 times applying the same force that it will rise to the same height every time.. Different types of belief I guess?
Those definitions seem more accurate. He pulled his defintions from websters I believe.
I actually had the same thought as your last sentence and mentioned it to him. That a scientist can believe anything he wants in terms of religion. But when it comes time to *do* science and use the...
First off let me say those are NOT my words. I'm debating someone who thinks that the statement in the thread title is true. I asked him to show me where the faith step is in the scientific method. He posted some definitions and a statement to follow it up which you can see below in quotes. Can...
I really want to! But my dilemma is that I do like these guys. All good guys. And working directly with each other we got to get along. So I normally just laugh and go along with their comments but damn...it aggravates me! I need to figure out a way to get them to look on here without exposing...
Wow, thank you for the all the responses. As I said I don't know enough about debating tactics to know how to explain clearly why someone is incorrect when they use fallacies. I'm learning though. It's super frustrating! And like I said I just don't understand how people can graduate with so...
Thank you for that link! I wish I knew about that and was able to explain it during my debate with them! I need to read up on debating tactics, fallacies..etc. I KNOW something is wrong when I'm debating people when they say certain things...like they aren't using logic. But I'm not currently...
You would think right? But both of them graduated about 10 years ago. I didn't want to insult them by comparing them to creationist but their arguments were exactly the same that I've seen from the religious side! They both also told me that humans stopped evolving. I explained to them that...
Hello everyone! I hope this is the correct spot for this question. Basically I was wondering who exactly can call themselves a scientist? I have several co-workers who have degrees in Environmental Science. We do not work in that field though. And during several debates - one in which they were...