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More specific: Which league has the strongest "average" team?
Please post where you're from also.
premier league of course.......:-)
Anttech
Dec13-05, 07:07 AM
Premier League...
NOT Belgian League for sure. I am conviced that George Best, five days before his death, was still a better socer player than 95% of the losers we have walking about the Belgian green fields.
i go with Premier League
With the Colts and the Bungles it's definitely the AFC. I'm still not sold on the Seahawks.
Anttech
Dec13-05, 09:38 AM
With the Colts and the Bungles it's definitely the AFC. I'm still not sold on the Seahawks.
ehh?? I hope you are joking
La Liga nad Premier League(because of Liverpool and its Spaniards)! :cool:
Anttech
Dec13-05, 10:32 AM
NOT Belgian League for sure. I am conviced that George Best, five days before his death, was still a better socer player than 95% of the losers we have walking about the Belgian green fields.
LOL.. actually historically Anderlech was a very good team in europe
But now they seem to loose "chippen". How will they win anything without him...:tongue:
Swedish reading exercise:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,745951,00.html
Premiere league. GO Man UTd!!!!
I think the teams in the premiership are in general of alot higher quality but La liga is a close second, it is quite a close season so far in spain.
Anttech
Dec13-05, 03:08 PM
So EL.. when you gonna eat your hat :-)
hehe
Actually I'll let you off since your best player (ever?) was playing for Celtic and was rather good :-) bit old now tho, but in his hay day was a a scoring machine.. 242 goals in 315 games.. not bad in any division, shame about 2003 tho :(
franznietzsche
Dec13-05, 03:43 PM
With the Colts and the Bungles it's definitely the AFC. I'm still not sold on the Seahawks.
I was wondering how long that would take.
Its totally the NFC.
What other league has Vikings as the premiere choke artists?
Actually I'll let you off since your best player (ever?) was playing for Celtic and was rather good :-) bit old now tho, but in his hay day was a a scoring machine.. 242 goals in 315 games.. not bad in any division, shame about 2003 tho :(
The scottish league is crap, larsson was pretty good though.
honestrosewater
Dec14-05, 01:27 AM
Yeah, Peyton and Dungy are hotties, but it's totally the NFC. I mean, we have the Barber twins and the yonger Manning. And everyone knows the younger brothers are way hotter. So what is everyone else talking about? Succer?
franznietzsche
Dec14-05, 01:31 AM
Yeah, Peyton and Dungy are hotties, but it's totally the NFC. I mean, we have the Barber twins and the yonger Manning. And everyone knows the younger brothers are way hotter. So what is everyone else talking about? Succer?
I dunno, but its not football :biggrin:
honestrosewater
Dec14-05, 01:45 AM
I dunno, but its not football :biggrin:I bet they aren't insomniacs either. We could so easily steal this thread and make it about real sports like frisbee or beer pong.
franznietzsche
Dec14-05, 01:47 AM
I bet they aren't insomniacs either. We could so easily steal this thread and make it about real sports like frisbee or beer pong.
Oooooh! I love beer pong. Play with guinness. MMM. Good times. Or play with my personal hard lemonade that consists of 1 part vodka to 3 parts lemonade (I don't want to die from beer pong afterall, otherwise it'd be 1-1). Good stuff.
siddharth
Dec14-05, 02:05 AM
I bet they aren't insomniacs either.
No, but they are spread over a lot of countries :smile: .
When you compare Association football and American football, it is easy to notice that
(i) Injuries are much more probable in American football
(ii) American football is much more expensive
(iii) It's too violent (reminds me of fully armoured tanks battling)
Besides,
you have a ball and you play with your feet, so football.
I wonder why Americans call American football as football :confused:?
From what I have seen most of the passing and running is done with the ball in the hands. Handball would have been a better name.
franznietzsche
Dec14-05, 02:08 AM
No, but they are spread over a lot of countries.
When you compare Association football and American football, it is easy to notice that
(i) Injuries are much more probable in American football
(ii) American football is much more expensive
(iii) It's too violent (reminds me of fully armoured tanks battling)
Besides,
you have a ball and you play with your feet, so football.
I wonder why Americans call American football as football :confused:?
From what I have seen most of the passing and running is done with the ball in the hands. Handball would have been a better name.
i) Yeah, nothing like getting pummeled by 300 lbs(140kg) of linebacker.
ii)Meh, we're gluttonous and wasteful on every other level anyway
iii) Mind you, I'm a rabid Ice Hockey fan. American football is nothing. The Canucks will tell you as much, I'm sure.
As to why its called football, I think it has more to do with the elongated ball. Beyond that, I have no idea.
honestrosewater
Dec14-05, 02:10 AM
Huh huh... you said elongated balls.
franznietzsche
Dec14-05, 02:12 AM
Huh huh... you said elongated balls.
Well....you know.....yeah.....:uhh:
honestrosewater
Dec14-05, 02:31 AM
Well....you know.....yeah.....:uhh:Meh, I guess it's not the worst thing you could have done with them.
So what should the two sports be called? Handball is no good -- in fact, hand anything is no good. Suggestions? Something ball...
franznietzsche
Dec14-05, 02:34 AM
Meh, I guess it's not the worst thing you could have done with them.
So what should the two sports be called? Handball is no good -- in fact, hand anything is no good. Suggestions? Something ball...
Handball is definitely too tribdog-ish.
Ballhand? Ballfoot? BallSmash? Murder Ball? Mutilation Ball? I got it!! ELONGATED BALL Huh? Huh?!?! Whaddya think?
honestrosewater
Dec14-05, 02:52 AM
I think this still-of-the-night-thread-stealing stuff is harder than I remember.
franznietzsche
Dec14-05, 03:18 AM
I think this still-of-the-night-thread-stealing stuff is harder than I remember.
Well the alternative is sleep. Sleep is great. But when I sleep, I dream. And my dreams are great. Which leads to me waking up and realizing that they're only dreams, and that's all they'll ever be. And that part is not so great.
PerennialII
Dec14-05, 03:18 AM
Premier and Liverpool of course.
honestrosewater
Dec14-05, 03:35 AM
Well the alternative is sleep. Sleep is great. But when I sleep, I dream. And my dreams are great. Which leads to me waking up and realizing that they're only dreams, and that's all they'll ever be. And that part is not so great.Aww, you want to talk about it? If so, I suggest you go somewhere where someone wants to listen. :tongue2:
Okay, I kinda like Murderball, but it's not quite tough enough. Maybe Killball. Or why don't we call non-American football Footyball?
siddharth
Dec14-05, 03:55 AM
I think American Rugby is a better name.
honestrosewater
Dec14-05, 04:12 AM
I think American Rugby is a better name.Ooh, Rugbyball. Nice. :approve:
So what is so great about (non-American) football? Other than getting to scream "Score!" a lot. Oh, or is it "Goal!"?
I think American Rugby is a better name.
Yup they are too afraid to play real rugby.They have to wear armor.
siddharth
Dec14-05, 06:26 AM
Ooh, Rugbyball. Nice. :approve:
So what is so great about (non-American) football? Other than getting to scream "Score!" a lot. Oh, or is it "Goal!"?
Football(ie, the one you play with the feet) is nice to play and the rules are very simple (except the offside rule). Very little equipment is required.
It's also a free-flowing game and exciting to watch.
Besides, you can scream anything as long as the ref doesn't hear it.
neurocomp2003
Dec14-05, 06:43 AM
CFL rules are better than the NFL.
honestrosewater
Dec14-05, 08:00 AM
Okay, football sounds like it might be cool. And I thought of the perfect name for American football: F-ball. I think it'll catch on.
honestrosewater
Dec14-05, 08:02 AM
CFL rules are better than the NFL.Canada has something like F-ball? Seriously?
mattmns
Dec14-05, 11:45 AM
The NFC? The AFC? Please, there are no better leagues this year, it is just the Colts and The Rest.
The Giants suck, they barely beat the Eagles, the Bears have always sucked, they just have a good record, same for the Panthers, I guess the only team in the NFC that has been good lately is the Seahawks, the Vikings have won 6 straight, but let's see how they finish.
Now for the AFC. The Broncos suck, they barely beat the Ravens, the Bengals suck, they barely beat the Browns, the Chiefs lost to Dallas, the Chargers lost to Miami, the Jags got smoked again, not as bad as last time though, by the Colts.
I am going to say Seahawks vs Colts in the Superbowl, and the Colts Win by 14 or more.
Anttech
Dec14-05, 11:46 AM
This thread is about Football.. not American Football! please stay on topic..:tongue2:
mattmns
Dec14-05, 12:16 PM
Well what you call Football, we call European Football, or soccer. And what you call American Football we call Football :smile:
Canada has something like F-ball? Seriously?
Yes, the Candian Football League even had teams in Shreveport, LA, a team in Tennesse (I think it was in Memphis), Birmingham, plus the most infamous team of all: The Baltimore CFL Colts. The Indianapolis Colts, which once were located in Baltimore, but moved to Indianapolis in the middle of the night, sued the CFL Colts to force them to quit using the Colts name (this was before Modell packed up and moved his Browns from Cleveland to Baltimore). The NFL Colts won their case in the middle of the CFL season, so the Baltimore CFL team played the rest of the season (and the next) with no name, but still kept the horse logo on their helmets. ESPN suddenly started showing CFL highlights just so Chris Berman could talk about the CFL Baltimore Horse With No Name. :rofl:
I think the CFL had some teams in Canada, as well, but I'm not positive about that.
Anttech
Dec14-05, 01:04 PM
Well what you call Football, we call European Football, or soccer. And what you call American Football we call Football
By 'you' do you mean everyone else on the planet? :rolleyes: ppftt...
khrystal
Dec14-05, 01:12 PM
Premier League is definitely the best followed by La Liga...
Football(ie, the one you play with the feet) is nice to play and the rules are very simple (except the offside rule). Very little equipment is required.
It's also a free-flowing game and exciting to watch.
Besides, you can scream anything as long as the ref doesn't hear it.
What in the world is complicated about the offside law? I've never understood why people have so much trouble understanding it. The laws on the goalkeeper handling the ball are much more complicated, if only because they keep changing the law.
I remember in one of the local leagues both teams botched this up in the same game by first passing the ball back to their own goalkeeper who picked it up, then throwing the ball in to the goal keeper who picked it up. About half time, a late arriving player showed up for one of the teams - first time he had a chance to throw the ball in, he called for the keeper, who responded "Freeze! Put the ball down! Put the ball the down and move away slowly!" The poor guy looked crushed as he bewilderedly set the ball gently on the ground and slowly backed away.
The other thing that baffled me about this game was the players all had small balls. Between about 30 players, they had one size five ball, which they kicked into a creek 30 seconds after the start of the game (there was incredibly strong wind that day), and about four or five dozen size four balls - I think half the players in that game coached youth soccer, which made ignorance of the law changes even more inexusable.
khrystal
Dec14-05, 01:23 PM
Premier League is definitely the best...GO CHELSEA...:wink:
arildno
Dec14-05, 01:31 PM
Which league has the cutest players?
Which league has the cutest players?
La liga! And also Liverpool has a very cute spaniard.:blushing:
arildno
Dec14-05, 01:50 PM
La liga! And also Liverpool has a very cute spaniard.:blushing:
Spaniards tend to be cute. :approve:
Which league has the cutest players?
The WUSA had a few nice looking players. And they had some pretty entertaining games, as well. With the increased athletic ability of modern times, I think soccer fields are more appropriately sized for women than for men. A little more open field makes for some better team play.
You see the same thing in hockey. The larger international rinks make for better games than in the cramped NHL rinks.
arildno
Dec14-05, 02:48 PM
The WUSA had a few nice looking players.
Hmm..is that because most women athletes are titless? :confused:
siddharth
Dec14-05, 09:59 PM
What in the world is complicated about the offside law? I've never understood why people have so much trouble understanding it.
The offside situation by itself is not that complicated. What makes it complicated is the "active play" part, by which an offense is commited only when the player in the offside position is interfering with play or interfering with an opponent or gaining an advantage by being in that position.
There are a lot of ways this part can be interpreted and can lead to a lot of confusion.
loseyourname
Dec15-05, 01:28 AM
The last two years I think it would have been the ACC hands down, but even though they're sending 8 teams to bowl games and every game was a battle, the Big-10 might have been better. The SEC was probably top heavier.
Yes, I'm joking.
The_Professional
Dec15-05, 01:51 AM
More specific: Which league has the strongest "average" team?
Please post where you're from also.
And I thought you're talking about American football. Or is this soccer? or rugby? - american football with no protection
Anttech
Dec15-05, 04:07 AM
And I thought you're talking about American football. Or is this soccer? or rugby? - american football with no protection
Not American Football, but Football..
And Rugby is nothing to do with American Football.. Bar you can hold the ball in your hands
mattmns
Dec15-05, 10:23 AM
I think Anttech is saying European Football (Soccer). Football is what we play over here in the US :smile:
Anttech
Dec15-05, 03:01 PM
European football??? What are you talking about.. Its played everywhere... Bit like your "world series" hahah :rofl:
And keene has just joined celtic yes yes yes yes :-)
Anttech
Dec15-05, 05:04 PM
yeh that'll be him :redface:
And I thought you're talking about American football. Or is this soccer? or rugby? - american football with no protection
No, I'm talking about football. As you could see I'm not from America, so I'm not capable of confusing my hands with my feet...:tongue2:
Everyone that's into football knows that La liga is a stronger competition than the Premier League. This poll is biased because the major part of the members of the forum are from english speaking countries. I had doubts between the Serie A and La Liga, because I believe that Serie A is on a par with La Liga. La Liga and Serie A are the best leagues in Europe
And remember that the best footballer of the world, Ronaldinho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldinho), plays in Spain...
Everyone that's into football knows that La liga is a stronger competition than the Premier League. This poll is biased because the major part of the members of the forum are from english speaking countries. I had doubts between the Serie A and La Liga, because I believe that Serie A is on a par with La Liga. La Liga and Serie A are the best leagues in Europe
And remember that the best footballer of the world, Ronaldinho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldinho), plays in Spain...
Thanks meteor! I agree with your comments, although I picked Serie A as somewhat better than La Liga, but it's really tight...
The others have just fallen for the Premier League propaganda...:smile:
And meteor's not gonna be biased at all is he? I dont think there is much too choose between either of the leagues, but in my opinion the premiership is the best because the football that is played is soo open and normally end to end stuff. Will be interesting to see the outcome of Chelsea v Barcelona and Arsenal v Real Madrid. Both of those games will be awesome, havent a clue who will go through to the next round though.
KingNothing
Dec18-05, 04:20 PM
I'm going to have to say AFC South with the colts and jaguars is the best division. Why would you guys call soccer football? That doesn't make any sense.
And meteor's not gonna be biased at all is he?
Well, anyway, I should be biased, in favour of PL!
Why would you guys call soccer football? That doesn't make any sense.
Do the words foot and ball say you anything?:rolleyes:
Anttech
Dec19-05, 03:17 PM
Everyone that's into football knows that La liga is a stronger competition than the Premier League.
why is this? Lets just see whos clubs get the furthest in the ufea and Champions league...
why is this? Lets just see whos clubs get the furthest in the ufea and Champions league...
You must know that english teams are always praised for their physical strength, but they habitually lack technical skills. However, spanish teams use to be well-skilled.
But you want proofs? Ok, no problem
Here's a nice list portraying the UEFA team ranking for year 2005.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/trank2005.html
Let's examine the first 50 teams. I count 10 spanish teams.: R.Madrid, Valencia, Barça, D.Coruña, Villarreal, Celta, Alaves, Zaragoza, Mallorca and Malaga
When I count english teams: oh surprise! only 6: Liverpool, Manchester, Arsenal, Newcastle, Chelsea and Leeds
That's enough? No?, Well, I have this other nice list with the FIFA ranking of national teams. Spain is 5th and England is 9th
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index.html
Now the ball is in your court :approve:
Anttech
Dec19-05, 04:15 PM
Look arounf your www site and you will see
first:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/tcoef2005.html
second:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/ccoef2005.html
third:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/crank2005.html
(Spain is better for the past 5 years accumulatively but not this year) and we are talking about the CURRENT EPL.
The ball is now in your goal... 3-1 EPL ;-D
That's enough? No?, Well, I have this other nice list with the FIFA ranking of national teams. Spain is 5th and England is 9th
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index.html
what on earth as that to do with the national league.. clutching straws
what on earth as that to do with the national league.. clutching straws
You're completely right on this. Just look at Sweden: The leuague sux more than my new vacuum cleaner, but still we'll win the WC!:biggrin:
Anttech
Dec20-05, 11:21 AM
You're completely right on this. Just look at Sweden: The leuague sux more than my new vacuum cleaner, but still we'll win the WC!
***SNAP*** ***SNAP*** ***SNAP***
wakey wakey EL... Your Dreaming hehe :rofl:
Isn't the jumbo prize a water closet?
(Ouch, that was bad...really bad...:grumpy: )
If spain are the 5th best team in the world and england only the 9th, then why are England joint favourites to win the tournemant? And your UEFA rankings are soo far out of date its unbeleivable, did you not hear about leeds getting relegated going into administration and now being absolutely useless? Anyone who knows anything about football will know about leeds, Champions league semi-finalists and just a few short years later they get relegated to the first division.
If spain are the 5th best team in the world and england only the 9th, then why are England joint favourites to win the tournemant? And your UEFA rankings are soo far out of date its unbeleivable, did you not hear about leeds getting relegated going into administration and now being absolutely useless? Anyone who knows anything about football will know about leeds, Champions league semi-finalists and just a few short years later they get relegated to the first division.
England favourites? They have not won the championship in decades...
And they are not my UEFA rankings. This is an official list that takes into consideration the results obtained over the last years by the teams. Leeds was relegated, but the years before to the relegation was performing fairly well, right? So, that's why it has a great amount of points
Ronaldinho has just won the FIFA Player of the year for the second consecutive season (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/4486166.stm). Second is Lampard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lampard), that plays in Premier league, for Chelsea. But third is another player of La Liga, Eto'o (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Eto%27o).
I'm looking forward for the Barcelona vs Chelsea, because they are actually the best teams in Europe,IMHO, so it's like a premature final. Here were I live people speak to no end about the matches. Barcelona has just beaten its historical record of 11 victories in a row (with the victory yesterday against Celta it has 13 accumulated until now)
Possibly we will see another row Mourinho vs Rijkaard, just like last year... :wink:
Guarenteed to be an arguement, mourinho is far too arrogant and to be honest i would love to see barcelona beat chelsea.
Wishbone
Dec23-05, 04:46 PM
oooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you mean soccer...
jimmy p
Mar10-06, 08:20 AM
Premiership of course, Let Stuart Pearce and Manchester City rule supreme!! Actually Brazil are 7/2 favs for the world cup, England are 6/1 second fav.
Arsenal for the champions league!
So EL.. when you gonna eat your hat :-)
I'd just like to point out that in the CL quarter finals we now have:
One english team (Arsenal)
Two spanish teams (Villarreal and Barcelona)
Two point nine italian teams (Juventus, Milan, 0.9*Inter who will just have to defeat Ajax).
Could it be more clear...:wink:
In all fairness though the referee ruined the chelsea barcelona game by sending del horno off in the first leg, it was a stupid challenge but not a red card. Liverpool outplayed benfica but had one of those days when they couldnt score. And as for Rangers, they where lucky to get through the group stages.
Its only between Barcelona, AC Milan and Juventus for me. They are the strongest teams left in it.
jimmy p
Mar12-06, 05:53 PM
I think that Arsenal have the ace up their sleeve. Much like Liverpool last year, they were the underdogs, and whilst Arsenal's record in Europe is poor, Thierry Henry is on fire.
Liverpool did not outplay Benfica, they just didn't play (especially in the first leg) and Benfica did what they had to do with two awesome goals.
You don't outplay an opponent and lose 3-0 aggregate, geez.
Difficult to say - the Premier league has more depth, but Barca are the best domestic team in the world at the moment. the truth is the difference between the big three leagues at the moemnt is miniscule, but I'd say right now La Liga has just taken over the mantle of the bets league int he world form the Premiership (which was the best league in the world last season IMHO).
Metoer - hmm are you seriously giving any credence to the FIFA rankings when they rank a relatively minor team such like the USA as fifth in the world! Spain is among the top inetrnational teams - but England right now is better.
they rank a relatively minor team such like the USA as fifth in the world! .
True, that's sorta preposterous. A glitch in the points assignment system, I reckon
I wil remind the draw for the quarterfinals
Villarreal-Inter Milan
Barcelona-Benfica Lisbon
Milan-Lyon
Arsenal London-Juventus Turin
As fantastic a team as Barcelona are, im not sure whether they are good enough to beat AC milan or Juventus.
This season though i really dont think La liga has been that good, apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid (who are struggling) they dont have any other top class teams.
True, that's sorta preposterous. A glitch in the points assignment system, I reckon
The rankings really don't mean anything no-one thinks they are accuarte indicators of who is better. England's squad at the moment is defintely stronger than Spain's. I'd put both teams among the top ten in the world, but at the moment England defintely have the upper hand.
I wil remind the draw for the quarterfinals
Villarreal-Inter Milan
Barcelona-Benfica Lisbon
Milan-Lyon
Arsenal London-Juventus Turin
Yes it's not been a great year in Europe for England's top clubs, but I'm not reading too much into it, the Premier League is still very strong, though so is La Liga and Serie A.
As fantastic a team as Barcelona are, im not sure whether they are good enough to beat AC milan or Juventus.
This season though i really dont think La liga has been that good, apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid (who are struggling) they dont have any other top class teams.
Barca are the best club team in the world at the moment - they may not have the best defence, but their attack is unbelivable I'd expect them to beat both those teams. Villareal aren't too shabby either they have Forlan, Sorin and most importantly Riquelme, but it is true that outside the top few teams La Liga suffers in comparison to the Premiership and Serie A.
jimmy p
Mar20-06, 05:50 AM
It wasn't a great year for England last year, but look at Liverpool :) I think Arsenal have every chance of winning. If only Dennis Bergkamp would fly.
Barca are a great team, but I personally think that Juventus are the best in the world. Juve's midfield would certainly cause more problems than Milan's.
All these leagues have super-teams, where no-one else is going to get a look in. La Liga has Barca, Real Madrid and Valencia, Serie A has Inter, AC Milan and Juve, even the Bundesliga has Bayern Munich and you could also add Shalke '04. The Premiership has Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd and Liverpool and (pre and post Souness) Newcastle. That's what makes the premiership seem better, is because it is more open.
I think that Arsenal have the ace up their sleeve. Much like Liverpool last year, they were the underdogs, and whilst Arsenal's record in Europe is poor, Thierry Henry is on fire.
The word in the street is that Arsenal superstar T. Henry has signed for Barca to play here the next season :biggrin:
jimmy p
Mar20-06, 09:07 AM
Hmm, we all thought it hinged on how well Arsenal did in the Champions League determined where Henry would be. I think he would be wasted in any other league other than the premiership. He is quite unremarkable for the French national team, and they play European football.
siddharth
Mar20-06, 10:54 AM
I think he would be wasted in any other league other than the premiership.
I disagree. I think his talent is being wasted at Arsenal. Imagine if he could play alongside the likes of Ronaldinho at Barca.
Arsenal London suffered to beat the modest Villarreal, but now it has reached the final (first time in its history)
So congrats to my briton friends, though they have foiled the possibility of an all-spanish final
I always liked the Champions League Hymn, so here (http://www.wasimmer.de/downloads/champions_league_hymne.mp3) it is. If it sounds like Handel, it's not a coincidence
For entertainment value - Premier League.
Tho', even with Arsenal in the final and Liverpool's success, I still don't think we've cracked Europe.
Chelsea look unstoppable in the PL but average playing the other European teams.
PL is fast-paced and exciting, but I'm having my doubts over the quality these days.
Still, bring on the summer and we'll see how the likes of Lampard and Gerrard stand up against Ronaldhinio :smile:
LMAO @ Arsenal London :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :wink:
The P-manator
Apr27-06, 05:56 PM
What about the French League? I know Lyon ogt out by Milan but still, they're an insane team. But if I were to go with the options up there, is La Liga the Spanish Premiera Division or the German Bundesliga???
La Liga's Spanish.
And, imo, Barca are the best club team in the world - we'll see what happens in the CL final :smile:
Of course, they have the Galacticos of Real Madrid - who are looking like the cast from Cocoon - and Valencia, Deportivo, Villareal...
It's a very decent league.
Bundesliga has no decent teams at the moment.
UEFA champions league hasn't been listed on the poll? That's one of my favourite leagues. But nothing is better than the World Cup!!!
Well there seems to be a lot of confusion here over "Football" :biggrin:. Football(as called across Europe) is known as Soccer in US. But the official name given to football by FIFA is Association Football. (I like to call it "Footsie" though :smile:).
45 days left for the world cup!!!
siddharth
May17-06, 02:17 PM
Who's watching the champions league finals right now?
Cracking game, though I can't watch it :frown:. Lehmann just got sent off. Barca should be leading if not for the ref.
Goal! I knew this would happen. Arsenal score with 10 men. Let's see if they can hang on for the rest of the game.
Who's watching the champions league finals right now?
Cracking game, though I can't watch it :frown:. Lehmann just got sent off. Barca should be leading if not for the ref.
Goal! I knew this would happen. Arsenal score with 10 men. Let's see if they can hang on for the rest of the game.
Yea, I'm watching it. I have to say that the referee is a rifler, and he has denied a legal goal to Giuly. This decision will raise hackles in the Ciutat Comtal should the match end with this scoreline. Right now, at half time, Arsenal 1-Barca 0
GOOOAAALLLL!!!
Eto'o scored. Barca 1-Arsenal 1
siddharth
May17-06, 03:27 PM
Yaay!!
Come on barca, one more to win. I think ronnie is going to get the winner. He looks dangerous.
GOOAALLL!!!
Woa, Belletti scored. Barca 2-Arsenal 1. I'm crawling on the floor
siddharth
May17-06, 03:31 PM
This is great stuff :approve:. It was the substitute Larsson both the times with the assist.
Yes! Barcelona have won. So, the winner of both the Champions League and the UEFA cup were teams from La Liga.
ukmicky
May17-06, 06:29 PM
The champions league is a knockout competion and so can not be used to judge who's best. if it were the case then chelsea would have been in the finals as they are at present a much better team than arsenal and have proved so over the course of the pl season.
There are only two good leagues the Premeirship and the La liga but the premiership would probably come out top if a proper competion was put to gether to judge which one was best.
Well done barca, From a chelsea fan.
Congrats to Barcalona!!! Got tensed when they did not score in the first half, now they have won!! Way to go!! :biggrin:
Was a good game but the referee spoiled it. Henry got kicked all over the place by puyol and marques but neither recieved any for of punishment (yelow card) yet henry makes a perfect tackle and gets booked whats that all about???
Well done to Barcelona they are a great team and would probably have won if it was 11 against 11 anyway but i wouldnt have been surprised if it was a high scoring game with arsenal just edging it.
siddharth
May18-06, 12:42 PM
Was a good game but the referee spoiled it. Henry got kicked all over the place by puyol and marques but neither recieved any for of punishment (yelow card) yet henry makes a perfect tackle and gets booked whats that all about???
What about Eboue's dive, from which Arsenal scored? He should have been sent off for that, if not for the first bad tackle.
Yea i agree, eboue did dive and he should have been booked according to the laws of the game. But so should all of the barcelona players that where gesturing to the referee that lehman should be sent off. And there was alot more play acting by the barcelona players throughout the entire game than by the arsenal players.
arildno
May18-06, 01:30 PM
Is this an interesting thread?
Its an interesting thread if you understand the game.
One ball, two holes and 22 cocks running around trying to get to the hole.
arildno
May21-06, 10:00 AM
Eeh-is it THAT we're talking about here??
Anyway, it doesn't change the fact that the hole/pole ratio is much too low.
*****COUGH COUGH COUGH******
Quarter-final draw
AC Milan v Bayern Munich
PSV Eindhoven v LIVERPOOL
Roma v MANCHESTER UNITED
CHELSEA v Valencia
For all you doubters out there :smile:
Guiness Premiership. It is the only league in England playing Football.
From a life long member of the Bath Football Club
ziad1985
Mar9-07, 04:36 PM
I hope that bayern will kick some Italian ***..
any fans of Germany here?
I hope that bayern will kick some Italian ***..
So do I; then man united will play bayern in the semis. (I've got a fond memory of that fixture :rolleyes: )
ziad1985
Mar9-07, 05:13 PM
don't remind me of 99(I think it was 1999), when it was bayern-Man united final.
1-0 till minute 88 , then suddenly man united gives birth to 2 goals, that was lame!!!
don't remind me of 99(I think it was 1999), when it was bayern-Man united final.
1-0 till minute 88 , then suddenly man united gives birth to 2 goals, that was lame!!!
mwahaha.. I quite enjoyed it :biggrin:
ziad1985
Mar9-07, 05:23 PM
mwahaha.. I quite enjoyed it :biggrin:
I hated it, like an 11 years old would hate a barbie doll...
but we won it in 2001 :approve:
Tips for the quarters:
Milan by a couple goals on aggregate
Liverpool by 1
Man U will win just because i don't want them too
and Chelsea will beat Valencia in both games.
Tips for the quarters:
Milan by a couple goals on aggregate
No way; bayern will beat milan.
Liverpool by 1
liverpool don't deserve to win, but probably will be lucky and win on away goals or something!
Man U will win just because i don't want them too
Man u will win because they're the best team in the competition.
and Chelsea will beat Valencia in both games.
i don't know about that-- chelsea aren't that good!
AC Milan v Bayern Munich
PSV Eindhoven v Liverpool
Roma v Manchester United
Chelsea v Valencia
I think Bayern, Liverpool, ManU and Valencia will make to the semis. Finally ManU will become champions!
I agree that Man U will win the competition.
I think the Chelsea v Valencia match will be the closest. I'd like to see Chelsea lose though!
Couperin
Mar10-07, 08:46 AM
I think that right now, the EPL is the strongest league in the world, especially now that Liverpool are going from strength to strength and are able to attract great players. EPL has four great teams, and at least six other teams who could beat the continental greats on their day.
I would love to see a down-to-the-last-day situation between Manu and Chelsea in the Prem, a Manu vs Chelsea FA Cup Final and a Manu vs Chelsea Champs league final.
As long as Manu win the Prem, I'm not bothered about the finals. I don't like to see monopolies, which is what Chelsea almost established in the Prem.
I would love to see a down-to-the-last-day situation between Manu and Chelsea in the Prem, a Manu vs Chelsea FA Cup Final and a Manu vs Chelsea Champs league final.
Hopefully resulting in another treble for Man U!
UEFA has decided which is the strongest league, because it assigns coefficients to the various domestic leagues in order to establish the number of clubs representing each country in the UEFA competitions. These are the coefficients for the 2007/08 campaign
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/Keytopics/kind=64/newsId=436763.html
1)Spain 72748
2)Italy 66731
3)England 63486
4)France 50781
5)Germany 48364
These are numbers and statistics and not the fanatical babble of some of the members here
83% of statistics are made up on the spot anyway.
Wow, that is the best counterargument you can come up with? Seems to me that is a way of admiting defeat and acknowledging the superiority of La Liga :rolleyes:
dont be stupid, if barcelona are so good then where are they in the champ league? what about real madrid?
dont be stupid, if barcelona are so good then where are they in the champ league? what about real madrid?
I don't care about the mandrils, in fact I laughed my soul out when the conceded a goal within the first 10 seconds in the match against Bayern. Ok, this has been a black season for spanish teams in the Champions, let's see what happens next year
A very black season for spain, i do love watching barcelona and real madrid though. But i do find that in general premiership games are alot more exciting to watch than the la liga games.
ziad1985
Mar11-07, 04:18 PM
And a very good one for England..3 teams
But i do find that in general premiership games are alot more exciting to watch than the la liga games.
It's easy to suspect some bias in this statement...:rolleyes:
I find the Swedish league very exciting, but I doubt noone else here does...
Anttech
Mar12-07, 05:02 AM
Hopefully resulting in another treble for Man U!Judging by the special ones performance in the FA cup that could happen, but I think both clubs are in the crap now, too many injuries. Its a lottery who wins IMHO.
UEFA has decided which is the strongest league, because it assigns coefficients to the various domestic leagues in order to establish the number of clubs representing each country in the UEFA competitions. These are the coefficients for the 2007/08 campaign
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/Keytopics/k...Id=436763.html
1)Spain 72748
2)Italy 66731
3)England 63486
4)France 50781
5)Germany 48364
These are numbers and statistics and not the fanatical babble of some of the members hereWhich year was the data take to create this table? certainly not 2006/2007 or 2005 as a matter of fact
Anttech
Mar12-07, 05:03 AM
It's easy to suspect some bias in this statement...:rolleyes:
I find the Swedish league very exciting, but I doubt noone else here does...
Now I do, since Larrsen will be playing there again
Now I do, since Larrsen will be playing there again
Please...L-A-R-S-S-O-N
eaboujaoudeh
Mar12-07, 06:36 PM
i'm probably one of the few neutral sides here..and i have to go with the serieA with clost competition from the Ligua, the Premiere division is third. i'm from Lebanon btw. Italy has contact football and very nice tactical play and magnificent players to watch. La ligua has nice strategies and great players. besides Man UTD and Chelsea and Arsenal who has world class players in England? i only watch them because of Chelsea and Theiry Henry ! i dont know 1 player in England who can entertain viewers like ronaldinho, ibrahimovic, adriano....do.
eaboujaoudeh
Mar12-07, 06:37 PM
probably the english league would improve when the work permit is eased up a little. comon english ppl were are your brazilians and argentinians??!?!?
comon english ppl
I'll take that as a phrase that's lost in translation :rolleyes:
were are your brazilians and argentinians??!?!?
erm.. West Ham Utd? :tongue2:
I'm a bit surprised I get "team mates" in Serie A now, but not at the time the thread was started. I mean since then Serie A has become a bit demolished due to the bribe scandal etc. Actually I would go for La Liga right now...
ziad1985
Mar12-07, 06:48 PM
i'm probably one of the few neutral sides here..and i have to go with the serieA with clost competition from the Ligua, the Premiere division is third. i'm from Lebanon btw. Italy has contact football and very nice tactical play and magnificent players to watch. La ligua has nice strategies and great players. besides Man UTD and Chelsea and Arsenal who has world class players in England? i only watch them because of Chelsea and Theiry Henry ! i dont know 1 player in England who can entertain viewers like ronaldinho, ibrahimovic, adriano....do.
Lebanese you say? We have a crappy league here, that's why we are fans of European leagues, but I agree with you on SerieA .
Ps:I like very much the German league, but I don't feel it rises up to leagues like the Italian one..
eaboujaoudeh
Mar12-07, 07:33 PM
common = as in come on, sorry for that.
we have a league in Lebanon? damn :P
common = as in come on, sorry for that.
:rofl: that makes more sense!
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