Kinetic Energy and Work to stop a particle

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between kinetic energy and the work required to stop a particle, specifically addressing the work-energy principle and the effects of external forces such as friction and gravity. The scope includes conceptual understanding and theoretical implications of work and energy in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Mike asserts that the work required to stop a particle with 10 J of kinetic energy is 10 J, assuming no energy dissipation due to friction.
  • Another participant questions the implication of friction, suggesting that if friction were considered, more than 10 J of work might be needed, which raises concerns about the initial assertion.
  • One participant states that regardless of the perspective, the total work done is 10 J altogether.
  • A different viewpoint introduces the work-energy principle, noting that the change in kinetic energy is equal to the net work done, which could involve multiple sources of work, especially in scenarios involving potential energy changes, such as moving uphill.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of friction and external forces on the work required to stop a particle, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding energy dissipation, the role of friction, or the conditions under which the work-energy principle applies, particularly in scenarios involving potential energy changes.

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Does the following statement makes sense?

The work in joules required to stop a particle moving with kinetic energy 10 J is, in fact, 10 J if we ignore energy dissipation due to friction.

Thanks,
Mike
 
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miloko said:
Does the following statement makes sense?

The work in joules required to stop a particle moving with kinetic energy 10 J is, in fact, 10 J if we ignore energy dissipation due to friction.

Thanks,
Mike

The highlighted bit is troubling me. It suggests that if we were to consider the energy disappated by friction more than 10J of work we be done, why would this be the case?

The bottom line is that if a particle has x joules of kinetic energy, it requires x joules of work to be stopped.
 
...or less. In reality, either way you look at it, it is 10J altogether.
 
Perhaps work-energy principle states that 'Change in K.E is infact the net work done" , this can be the summation of work done by different sources , or maybe work done by one single source.So to stop the particle , final K.E would be zero , and Work done would be equal to initial K.E ,

Now there might be a case, which you haven't mentioned , if the particle is going up the hill , that is gaining P.E while losing K.E , so this time work is being done by gravity to slow it down , there might be a case , that you are pushing the object , while it is going uphill , and also rise in P.E is also helping it ...so net work done is still change in K.E , but this work is being done by you as well as gravity!...
 

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