Perpetual Motion....

[Generic]

i have been tru some website regarding perpetual motion and all most 80% are out to motivate people into attemping to make perpetual motion, but ofcourse some are very non motivating,like this site. :(

http://www.sonic.net/~ric/go/perpetual.htm

i mean if such a device was build that could change how cars are used and change how the industrial industry works, would you call it bad ?
able not to produce as much as pollution its hole lifetime than a single match ?

i know all of you students and teachers are trying to make the world a better place but sometimes, it makes me think were not such ready for a device....

even though it might benefit from are sons and daughters, as much cleaner future...

but since were totaly dependent on oil and gas it seems it that is has no meaning yet.

no invention is worth more than life itself, not even for 750 Million!!!, as crazy as it sounds its really true.

now want a hint ?
Dont go against the Laws of Physics,we cannot break them yet...
instead use them for your advantenge, also sit down for about a hour and just Think,make you mind feel isolated and it will start to become more efficient....(Like in a boring Classroom)

before you know it youl have a idea,use what you have been taught
and you might just be closer to make it into reality...

Trust me it works...

(knowledge is Power)



-its funny how the idea is right on our face and we dont know it :)-

All be here all day so Post Replys!!!

[Generic]

(LOL!!)now i know why it takes Thousands of Years to Achieve it

(Hello Anybody Here ???)lmao....[a)]

[Jimmy]

So how exactly does one achieve perpetual motion?

[Generic]

you got 750 Million in hand ?

[deda]

Ain't this (Generic) the funniest person on PF?
LOL!

Perpetual motion is same as harmonic oscillation, right?

[Jimmy]

Generic: you got 750 Million in hand ?




That's not an answer. If you are going push the idea of perpetual motion and expect people to invest money in it, you should at least have some idea of how it might be possible.

Again I ask, how can perpetual motion be achieved?

[deda]

Ain't this (Generic) the funniest person on PF?
LOL!

Perpetual motion is same as harmonic oscillation, right?

[Generic]

Simply dont try to break the laws of physics, but use them for your advantage. :)

[Jimmy]

Originally posted by deda
Ain't this (Generic) the funniest person on PF?
LOL!

Perpetual motion is same as harmonic oscillation, right?

I'm speaking in regards to the extraction of free energy by using so called perpetual motion machines. Sure, you can say we are all in perpetual motion but that's not really what we are talking about, is it? Were talking about free energy. So I should have made my question more precise. How can one make a perptual motion machine and extract free energy from it. I say it can't be done. No such thing as energy out of nothing.

[Jimmy]

Originally posted by Generic
Simply dont try to break the laws of physics, but use them for your advantage. :)

That's not an answer either. Later

[Generic]

(I say it can't be done. No such thing as energy out of nothing)

CORRECT!!!!!!!!

now i know magnets have Potential Energy RIGHT ?

now when you throw a ball its POTENTIAL ENERGY RIGHT ?

WELL IMAGING THROWING A BALL BUT REPEATING IT....

[Generic]

Jimmy you here ?

[Generic]

oh boy....

[Jimmy]

Originally posted by Generic
(I say it can't be done. No such thing as energy out of nothing)

CORRECT!!!!!!!!

now i know magnets have Potential Energy RIGHT ?

now when you throw a ball its POTENTIAL ENERGY RIGHT ?

WELL IMAGING THROWING A BALL BUT REPEATING IT....

I'm not sure what you mean exactly. But for the hell of it, let's say you did create some sort of device that moved perpetually. The moment you try to extract energy from it, it's not going to be in perpetual motion for long.

[Generic]

so your state-ing that Magnetic Energy will die off from it ?

the Potential part of it ?

well Repulsion to be exact :)

[Generic]

um extract requires more energy than Changing its Direction...

[Generic]

oh cough ok

look at this cross

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well if it were moving (Potential)
its hard to extract that energy
but if you move where its heading its easier..

[Generic]

Simplest Terms Harnessing the Potential Energy from a Magnet.

Its like a water fall you just need a generator. :)

[chroot]

Generic,

I think you have a great deal more studying to do.

- Warren

[Generic]

oh no its you again....lol

[chroot]

How old are you? 14? 15?

- Warren

[Generic]

Just make sure if i die and they wanted to figure out how i did it with such little knowledge in science, just make sure they dont put my brain in a Jar and start picking on it ;)

[chroot]

Originally posted by Generic
Just make sure if i die and they wanted to figure out how i did it with such little knowledge in science, just make sure they dont put my brain in a Jar and start picking on it ;)
You haven't done anything.

- Warren

[Generic]

hey gimme some time Budget is short, atleast you dont have to wait another 1,000 years ;)

Just REMEBER THIS NAME (VEROSTAR)

[chroot]

Do you have also delusions of grandeur in other aspects of your life?

- Warren

[Generic]

huh ? dang how old do i have to be to get some RESPECT around HERE 100 year old ???

[Generic]

well i am 16 trying to enjoy life...:)

[chroot]

It's not your age that's keeping you from getting respect. It's your host of vacuous ideas, lack of actual understanding, and concomittant delusion of grandeur. As I've said before, you have a lot more studying ahead of you. Why don't you get started?

- Warren

[Generic]

so your saying i am flat out St8pid ?

compared to the high schools students
heck it makes me look like einstein.

seriously i devoted time and alot of effort into science but still i really dont care what people say the only thing i have to prove is myself only not you or the president :)

[Generic]

Heck next time your shopping for a car Make it a VEROSTAR, youl end up loving it so much,heck you never ever have to refuel it ever again (and recharge it ever again...)lol.

just expect it in 4 to 7 years from now...:)

[chroot]

Yeah, right, kid.

- Warren

[Generic]

in the mean time all study hard in Kinematics and Dynamics and a little Chemistry lol.

[Generic]

Hey i am not a kid i DESERVE the word teen. :) yet adult ;)

[chroot]

Judging by this thread, you need more electrodynamics.

- Warren

[Generic]

Shock Therapy ?

[Generic]

looking up electrodynamics........

Hey i am not a Lemon!!

[Generic]

well maybe a Lemon Head but not a Battery Lemon ;)

[Generic]

Theory Development ???
what does it mean ?

[Generic]

blah blah.....blah.....blah.blah......blah...

Gimme A Equation PLEASE i wont use a calculator ;)!

[Generic]

how big is E=Mc2 Formula ?

[chroot]

Electrodynamics is the study of electric and magnetic fields, in which the charges may be moving. (As opposed to electrostatics and magnetostatics, in which the charges are fixed.)

Based on what you've written here, you have a number of ideas about magnets that are incorrect.

The "Theory Development" forum is place where people can develop their own personal theories. We have a number of people on this forum who really don't know any science, yet feel they are superior to us all and want to tell us how mainstream science (which they don't really understand) is wrong. We put those people here.

You are using this thread, in particular, to argue several basic pieces of physical understanding: the conservation of energy, and the way magnets really work. Your discussion of these arguments belongs here, in theory development.

- Warren

[Generic]

Hey i am kid trying to make a better future for all of us,kinda got the calvin personality but i aint making theorys of something that has a foundation on,yet mine.

your right,i am wrong,and theres notthing i can do i about it. :(

anyways its Funny and Hillarious of what i try to speak, its like trying to talk to my taco bell dog but sometimes it a see to believe theory more than anything else.

i believe that i did not accomplished perpetual motion its (LIES LIES)
ofcourse theres the other side of the story. :)

anyways its like talking Giberish...

100 years ago they thought no one can make it to the moon and look at it now theres Multi-Billion dollar projects going on right now as we speak...

realitively right now no, no one has accomplished perpetual motion BUT THE PURSUE continues.

just remember this name write it down somewhere!!!!!

VEROSTAR

and youl be suprised!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I TOTALY GURANTEE IT!!!!

well i better call it a night my brains starting to gimme the snoozy brain waves.........alpha.........beta..............thet a.............OMG I AM RICH!!!!!

ROLFMAO!!!!

LATER....

[chroot]

A "gaurantee" means that if your goal is not accomplished, you'd give me something. If you are proposing that you'll give me 750 M$ if you do not successfully invent free energy, then I might take more interest in your "work."

As it stands, you're nothing more than a blue-sky dreamer. Spend a little less time dreaming, and a little more time learning. You'll be the better for it.

- Warren

[Generic]

Joke (Will you take Cash or Check ?)

[deda]

Originally posted by Jimmy
I'm speaking in regards to the extraction of free energy by using so called perpetual motion machines. Sure, you can say we are all in perpetual motion but that's not really what we are talking about, is it? Were talking about free energy. So I should have made my question more precise. How can one make a perptual motion machine and extract free energy from it. I say it can't be done. No such thing as energy out of nothing.
The quest for such a perpetuum mobile is actually quest for constant difference. The work done that you want to get for free should be made proportional with some other difference that remains the same all the time. The work done is difference in energy.

I have one concept of mine HERE (http://www.geocities.com/dr_physica/egdd.htm)
I wont say why it wont work but yet it doesn't.

This Generic guy is my favorite.
LOL.
What's your diagnoses Generic.
I have Psyhosis.
LOL.

[Generic]

you should make a 3d model of it :).

then it will be easier to understand...

[russ_watters]

I don't think I've ever seen a thread with such a low content:post count ratio. I've searched and searched, but I just can't seem to find a point.

[ray b]

is an electron in orbit perpetual motion??
what about a photon will it travel forever unless it hits something

[russ_watters]

Originally posted by ray b
is an electron in orbit perpetual motion??
what about a photon will it travel forever unless it hits something Perpetual motion implies a self-powering process, not just physical motion. Newton's first law is not perpetual motion.

[Generic]

"Newton's first law is not perpetual motion."

i know its not what makes perpetual motion but it is what is stopping the entire idea!!!

Friction is stops movement...