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Now our more obese representatives can go back to eating the nonpolitical 'French fries' (though the trans-unsaturated fats remain unchanged):
WASHINGTON (AFP) - French fries are back on the menu of cafeterias that cater to US lawmakers on Capital Hill, more than three years after they were replaced by "freedom fries" in anger over France's refusal to join the US-led war in Iraq.http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060802/od_afp/afplifestyleusiraq_060802203314
In retrospect, that was rather absurd... :uhh:
fourier jr
Aug2-06, 09:05 PM
i think i will keep freedom kissing though :tongue: :!!)
Pythagorean
Aug2-06, 09:09 PM
politics doesn't make sense to me :/
Pengwuino
Aug2-06, 10:08 PM
ummmm......
shut up yomamma
I also enjoyed freedom kissing and freedom mustard. The way Americans eat fries... why the hell should we call it french fries in the first place? I think at some point, you can take over a name out of pure massive inputs of food.
In England we call them by the propper name (chips) i know thats what you Yanks call crisps, but you guys are so mixed up, i mean, trunk, fany,
hood.
politics doesn't make sense to me :/
"Politics is for the moment, however and equation is for eternity."
-The big AE
shut up yomamma
I also enjoyed freedom kissing and freedom mustard. The way Americans eat fries... why the hell should we call it french fries in the first place? I think at some point, you can take over a name out of pure massive inputs of food.
I dont even know why they are called 'french frys' they were invented in Belgium!
In England we call them by the propper name (chips) i know thats what you Yanks call crisps, but you guys are so mixed up, i mean, trunk, fany,
hood.
Lol whats a trunk over there? the boot?
Pengwuino
Aug3-06, 02:48 AM
I dont even know why they are called 'french frys' they were invented in Belgium!
At least they are fried:blushing:
In retrospect, that was rather absurd... :uhh:
I doubt the French care much - they have much more class.
Schrodinger's Dog
Aug3-06, 03:38 AM
politics doesn't make sense to me :/
Politics doesn't make sense to politicians(politics is another way of saying strategic lying, or diplomacy) If you know anything about it, then you know the more you know the less you really know. Try asking a politicain an awkward question and you'll see what I mean :smile:
Dimitri Terryn
Aug3-06, 05:19 AM
In Europe the US managed to completely ridicule themselves over this. The reason they are called French fries is because they are frenched, i.e. 'to cut into lengthwise pieces'. You probably know 'frenched beans'. Not only was the US displaying an archaic 19th century jingoistic attitude, they didn't even get it right!
And yes, they are Belgian! Fries are a national thing here. The most common fast food place here is the "frietkot", literally a shack or trailer where you can by fries with all manner of sauces(like mayonaise, ketchup, cocktail...), and usually a variety of fried meat as well.
And yes, they are Belgian! Fries are a national thing here. The most common fast food place here is the "frietkot", literally a shack or trailer where you can by fries with all manner of sauces....
As long as it's mayonaisse :tongue:
Now our more obese representatives can go back to eating the nonpolitical 'French fries' (though the trans-unsaturated fats remain unchanged):
Just to be clear : French Fries are BELGIAN.
marlon
Just to be clear : French Fries are BELGIAN.
marlon
Calm down!!! :) go get yourself some lekker vlams friets mjn mucker
You Belgians... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Schrodinger's Dog
Aug3-06, 06:21 AM
I am a potato Nazzi and I say without fear of reproach that chips thickly cut and fried in animal fat(or vegeatbale oil if your worried about your arteries) to a golden brown are infinitely more tastey than cardboard fries from anywhere in the world, but then I would say that I'm English, and besides if you don't agree with me I'll invade your country with English restaurants that only serve chips and fish.:smile:
Dimitri Terryn
Aug3-06, 06:23 AM
What you Brits don't get is that
a) You cut your fries THIN
b) You boil them TWICE in oil, just doing it once makes them soggy
c) You do NOT serve them with fish!!
:wink:
loseyourname
Aug3-06, 06:25 AM
In Europe the US managed to completely ridicule themselves over this. The reason they are called French fries is because they are frenched, i.e. 'to cut into lengthwise pieces'. You probably know 'frenched beans'. Not only was the US displaying an archaic 19th century jingoistic attitude, they didn't even get it right!
That's interesting. That type of cut is called a "julienne" cut. How on earth did anyone ever come to call it "Frenched?"
star.torturer
Aug3-06, 06:27 AM
go mr potato nazzi, im a potato defect, are you going to kill me yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
english chips are beter by far than anyother form of potatoe beverage.
crisps come second
then roasties
then baked/jacket potatoes
then new potatoes
then every other type of potato beveragte that i have mised
then French Fries
loseyourname
Aug3-06, 06:31 AM
Do English people also refer to side dishes as "beverages?" Or do you actually drink your chips?
star.torturer
Aug3-06, 06:39 AM
i Me personaly drink everything
a) You cut your fries THIN
b) You boil them TWICE in oil, just doing it once makes them soggy
c) You do NOT serve them with fish!! im starting to get angry
fries are a compleat ly different breed to fries, no, a compleatly diferent spieceis. they dont even originate from the same planet, no, sustem, no, universe.
Oh, and chips were first, numero uno, Nr. eine
I went back to England the other week and soaked my chips in vinegar :smile:
star.torturer
Aug3-06, 06:46 AM
dream in heven J77, i am dribiling all over my keyboard
Schrodinger's Dog
Aug3-06, 06:46 AM
What you Brits don't get is that
uh uh uh, don't start lecturing me I'm a potato Nazi remember :smile:
a) You cut your fries THIN
No, absolutely vile propoganda, who do you work for Mc Donalds?
b) You boil them TWICE in oil, just doing it once makes them soggy
No it doesn't your making your chips wrong? Soggy chips, are the sign of a peasant chip maker, you need to heat the oil to a temperature high enough that your chips don't sogify, a good bench test is to put a chip into the oil and if the oil starts to bubble vigorously around it, it's ready for immersion. fry 'em quick and they wont go soggy. Also if you want to make croquet potatoes then boil them first and then fry them, this will keep them from sogification.
c) You do NOT serve them with fish!!
Blaspehmy, I cast you down vile demon.:tongue2: :smile:
EDIT: in the apocrypha of the chip Bible, I will acknowledge that chips can be served with pie, preferably steak and kidney although there is some ecumenical consideration given to chicken and mushroom, or in Scotland steak pie(different church though) Or a nice big saveloy, or in exceptional circumstances a pea fritter. In some obscure gnostic texts it is also acceptable to serve them with burgers, although this is not common and is considered heresy by puritanical chip lovers like myself :biggrin:
Dimitri Terryn
Aug3-06, 08:09 AM
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Assets/Images_Upload/nb0110frieten.jpg
The perfect fries. Thicker then the McDonnalds ones, but not the quarter potatoes the Brits serve.
I rest my case! :tongue2:
Astronuc
Aug3-06, 08:09 AM
Now our more obese representatives can go back to eating the nonpolitical 'French fries' (though the trans-unsaturated fats remain unchanged):
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060802/od_afp/afplifestyleusiraq_060802203314
In retrospect, that was rather absurd... :uhh: In retrospect? At the time it was absurd, especially considering that the administration was misleading the country. :rolleyes:
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Assets/Images_Upload/nb0110frieten.jpg
The perfect fries. Thicker then the McDonnalds ones, but not the quarter potatoes the Brits serve.
I rest my case! :tongue2:
To be honest, after tasting both, I would have to say: the double frying, nor the size (as long as they arent really skinning like mcdonalds) has anything to do with the taste.
It all comes down to the oil/fat you use when frying. I have tasted some yummy belgium friets and I have tasted some yummy British chips. BUT I have to say that you cant beat a Fish supper :) Fish and Chips are the perfect combination, especially Haddock. Typically your local 'durum' (kebab) place in Brussels fry there chips with the worst Oil you can imagine, it makes 'em taste really greasy.. But some of the Belgium vans do, do very good chips..
So all things weighed up, I would say both are as good as each other.. Enough of your nazism Schrol! :D
hehe
Moonbear
Aug3-06, 09:38 AM
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Assets/Images_Upload/nb0110frieten.jpg
The perfect fries. Thicker then the McDonnalds ones, but not the quarter potatoes the Brits serve.
I rest my case! :tongue2:
Mmmmm...reminds me of the boardwalk as a kid! There was a place there that just served fries, just like that, in a paper cone-shaped wrapper. :approve:
Calm down!!! :) go get yourself some lekker vlams friets mjn mucker
you mean "a goe pakske friet" right ?
marlon
What you Brits don't get is that
a) You cut your fries THIN
b) You boil them TWICE in oil, just doing it once makes them soggy
c) You do NOT serve them with fish!!
:wink:
Truer words were never spoken:approve:
marlon
To be honest, after tasting both, I would have to say: the double frying, nor the size (as long as they arent really skinning like mcdonalds) has anything to do with the taste.
Obviously there is something wrong with your taste.
BUT I have to say that you cant beat a Fish supper :)
:surprised ok, marlon, be open minded...
Fish and Chips are the perfect combination,
Well, let's just say that the UK-kitchen (well the entire England kitchen) is, err, not exactly the best in the world.
marlon
star.torturer
Aug3-06, 09:58 AM
Well, let's just say that the UK-kitchen (well the entire England kitchen) is, err, not exactly the best in the world.
i this in total or as a percentage
you obviously are thinking about the worse of the english foods
In Europe the US managed to completely ridicule themselves over this. The reason they are called French fries is because they are frenched, i.e. 'to cut into lengthwise pieces'. You probably know 'frenched beans'. Not only was the US displaying an archaic 19th century jingoistic attitude, they didn't even get it right!
And yes, they are Belgian! Fries are a national thing here. The most common fast food place here is the "frietkot", literally a shack or trailer where you can by fries with all manner of sauces(like mayonaise, ketchup, cocktail...), and usually a variety of fried meat as well.
I think it has to be because of the potatoes were cooked, not how they were cut. The term "French fried" potatoes appeared before the term "French cut". Alternatively, since French fries is a term more common to the US than Europe, it could just be because Thomas Jefferson's chef was French (they really gained popularity in the US when Jefferson made a habit of serving them at White House functions).
They were invented by Belgians, though. They were a substitute for fried fish when it was too cold to fish.
Personally, I always liked the French fries they served at Cedar Point (an amusment park near Cleveland, Ohio). With some salt and vinegar, they were fantastic.
Schrodinger's Dog
Aug3-06, 10:14 AM
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Assets/Images_Upload/nb0110frieten.jpg
The perfect fries. Thicker then the McDonnalds ones, but not the quarter potatoes the Brits serve.
I rest my case! :tongue2:
They look OK but what is that "white devils" sauce on them, chips/fries have to have ketchup or brown sauce on them, it's the law!!! At least in the UK, who puts mayo on chips that's not just offensive to all right thinking Brits, that's downright sacrelige:wink: :smile:
besides "There are two types of people in the world those who like mayonaise and those who don't"
I forget who said that.
star.torturer
Aug3-06, 10:23 AM
you cant call it white devils sauce, thats just nasty on the devil
The perfect fries. Thicker then the McDonnalds ones, but not the quarter potatoes the Brits serve. they aint quarter potato, they are 10 x 10 x 100 (average) or in us terms 1/2" x 1/2" x 5" which aint a quarter of a potato
sauces just spoil good food, unless its some good food that goes well with it, and the mayoneais sause isnot a chip complimentary substence, unlike tomato sauce not ketchup.
though chips go best with a good drowning of vinegar and a seasonable snowing of salt
Well, let's just say that the UK-kitchen (well the entire England kitchen) is, err, not exactly the best in the world.Misconception! The UK 'Kitchen' Is equal to that of Belgium and better than Holland. Anyway what do you mean by kitchen? I can guarantee we have far more michelen star restaurant, far more home grown michelen star chiefs than Belgium. Belgium food is actually good, I prefer it to French, well it is basically French food but with less fuss, and more beer stews (Which is very British as well I may add).
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Assets/Images_Upload/nb0110frieten.jpg
The perfect fries. Thicker then the McDonnalds ones, but not the quarter potatoes the Brits serve.
I rest my case! :tongue2:
:yuck: You dip stick, i was all most sick in my mouth :smile: yes i have tried them in belgium and i all most bought my beer back up.
Moonbear
Aug3-06, 10:33 AM
Personally, I always liked the French fries they served at Cedar Point (an amusment park near Cleveland, Ohio). With some salt and vinegar, they were fantastic.
The place on the boardwalk had salt and vinegar as an option too, but I hadn't yet acquired a taste for that as a kid (I love it now). I've tasted mayo on fries at the urging of European friends, but apparently have not acquired that taste yet either. If the fries are made properly, you don't need any sauce to dip them in, they are tasty all by themselves (maybe with a little salt)! I mostly resort to ketchup on the more tasteless fries (like those atrocities Burger King serves...they shouldn't even be called fries, they taste all wrong).
The UK 'Kitchen' Is equal to that of Belgium and better than Holland.
:rofl:
You are gonna compare with Holland ?
Anyway what do you mean by kitchen?
:rolleyes: What do you think ?
I can guarantee we have far more michelen star restaurant, far more home grown michelen star chiefs than Belgium.
It's Michelin. Well, the UK is much bigger than Belgium, so...
But what i wanted to say is this : the food served in a top rated restaurant does not represent the general average cuisine of a country. In such places, the chefs may be coming from different countries or are influenced by different eating cultures. So, such cuisines are NOT representative. Or do you eat in such restaurants every evening ?
Belgium food is actually good, I prefer it to French, well it is basically French food but with less fuss, and more beer stews (Which is very British as well I may add).
<sighs>
French food with less fuss, yeah right. Try getting a "boterham met jonge kaas" in France. Try getting a good steak (saignant :wink:) with Belgian Fries in France, try getting hutsepot in France...
C'mon man, obviously, you do not know what you are talking about.
Amd finally, just because in your country there is more drinking going on does not imply that your beers are any better. Just read the international reviews of Belgian beers and you won't need to reply to what i have just said.
Just agree with me in advance, it will save you a lot of time, trust me...
marlon
Physics_wiz
Aug3-06, 10:40 AM
This thread is making me hungry.
star.torturer
Aug3-06, 10:48 AM
lol thats the first thing thats made me laugh in this thread for a while
i give yoiu the prize that you have a biger wit than me at this momet
english food is good in some respect
Just agree with me in advance, it will save you a lot of time, trust me...
Never!
Amd finally, just because in your country there is more drinking going on does not imply that your beers are any better. Just read the international reviews of Belgian beers and you won't need to reply to what i have just said.Not disputing that, Orval is the best beer I have EVER tasted!
But what i wanted to say is this : the food served in a top rated restaurant does not represent the general average cuisine of a country. In such places, the chefs may be coming from different countries or are influenced by different eating cultures. So, such cuisines are NOT representative. Or do you eat in such restaurants every evening ?If you read what I said, I said 'home grown' which implies they are from the UK, not international! The average cuisine in the UK is good, and IMO just as good as Belgium, and it is saying a lot because I truely like Belgium food. Honestly mucker you will find many similarities between Belgium and British food.
You are gonna compare with Holland ?Good point well presented! :wink:
Dimitri Terryn
Aug3-06, 11:29 AM
:yuck: You dip stick, i was all most sick in my mouth :smile: yes i have tried them in belgium and i all most bought my beer back up.
That has nothin to do with the fries, it's you Brits who can't stomach decent beer :biggrin:
That has nothin to do with the fries, it's you Brits who can't stomach decent beer :biggrin:
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Uncle, uncle, you do have drinkable beer, but
girly glasses :tongue2:
That's interesting. That type of cut is called a "julienne" cut. How on earth did anyone ever come to call it "Frenched?"Frenched is a correct term, it's not quite the same as juliened.
"Frenched
The process of cutting food in a specific way to assist with the preparation of the item. When vegetables such as beans, peppers or potatoes are cut into long thin strips, the preparation process refers to the vegetables as being "frenched"."
http://www.hormel.com/kitchen/glossary.asp?id=35683
Schrodinger's Dog
Aug3-06, 03:30 PM
Misconception! The UK 'Kitchen' Is equal to that of Belgium and better than Holland. Anyway what do you mean by kitchen? I can guarantee we have far more michelen star restaurant, far more home grown michelen star chiefs than Belgium. Belgium food is actually good, I prefer it to French, well it is basically French food but with less fuss, and more beer stews (Which is very British as well I may add).
Indeed, French cuisine is based on English cuisine, they took an art perfected it and then sold it back to us, 'tis true. English cuisine is well respected, I mean chefs with those michelin stars and that type of thing rather than the traditional image of bangers and mash and steak and kidney pie(nothing wrong with those but, we English do know how to cook) Of course literally speaking all English cuisine comes from the continent being our ancestors probably crossed the land bridge that existed after the reatreat of the last ice age :smile: The case still stands our ineptitude in the kitchen is a myth.
Never!
I know, i know, it's annoying when one has to admit a mistake. Only little children react like this though.
Not disputing that,
Yes you were. read your own words please.
If you read what I said, I said 'home grown' which implies they are from the UK, not international!
This is not the point. I reacted to the fact that there are more Michelin chefs in the UK. this does not imply that "general" cuisine in a country is better than elswhere. This is exactly what you were trying to say but, sorry, it's not gonna fly...
The average cuisine in the UK is good,
I disagree (along with 95 % of the European continent)
and IMO just as good as Belgium,
You are entitled to have your own opinion.
Honestly mucker you will find many similarities between Belgium and British food.
Honestly mucker, you will find many such similarities, i am sure...Just name me a few, ok ?:rolleyes:
Good point well presented! :wink:
Indeed
marlon
Misconception! The UK 'Kitchen' Is equal to that of Belgium and better than Holland.Yeah - I've lived and worked in all three.
The UK is definitely out on top.
The only things the Belgians do better is moules frites, and the Dutch...
...well, if you deep fry everything, you ain't getting a Michelin star :biggrin:
star.torturer
Aug4-06, 03:08 AM
...well, if you deep fry everything, you ain't getting a Michelin star damn, my plan wont work
damn, my plan wont work
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4159/febovq2.jpg
These guy's plans did tho' :yuck:
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm :yuck:
The famous Dutch 'hole in the wall' kaas soufflé anyone?
Yeah - I've lived and worked in all three.
The UK is definitely out on top.
The only things the Belgians do better is moules frites, and the Dutch...
...well, if you deep fry everything, you ain't getting a Michelin star :biggrin:
hey Snap, me too :) and I agree with you ;)
UK top
BE 2nd
NL Last (by far)
SpaceTiger
Aug4-06, 04:18 AM
In retrospect, that was rather absurd...
There should be something in our constitution to prevent this from happening again. You know, like "separation of idiot and state."
star.torturer
Aug4-06, 04:23 AM
but then there would be no state
We will all be taking meal pills soon, well it is darwinian, i just hope the important bits of our anatomy do not devolve :cry:
They look OK but what is that "white devils" sauce on them, chips/fries have to have ketchup or brown sauce on them, it's the law!!! At least in the UK, who puts mayo on chips that's not just offensive to all right thinking Brits, that's downright sacrelige:wink: :smile:
besides "There are two types of people in the world those who like mayonaise and those who don't"
I forget who said that.
Nah everyone knows that the best way to have fries is when they are smothered in cheese and gravy.....you will die an early artery clogged death but damn its good.
star.torturer
Aug4-06, 07:13 AM
cheese and gravy?????? more like salt and vinegar!!!!!!!! nice and traditional
Donner chips n cheese :) mmmmmmmmmmmm
Doner and cheese!!! :yuck:
Chips and chilli sauce :biggrin:
Yeap... layer of chips then cheese topped with donner, and uzzing with donner sauce (obviously after 10 or so pints) dont knock it till u tried it :)
Yeap... layer of chips then cheese topped with donner, and uzzing with donner sauce (obviously after 10 or so pints) dont knock it till u tried it :)
I was enjoying that on my way back from the pub when I was 15 :biggrin:
Schrodinger's Dog
Aug5-06, 06:01 AM
Nah everyone knows that the best way to have fries is when they are smothered in cheese and gravy.....you will die an early artery clogged death but damn its good.
Yeah sure, some combinations are great but I'm just saying Mayonaise on chips is an offense to God and England.:wink: :smile:
Chips 'n gravy is lush BTW. *drools onto his legs*
Never tried chile sauce on chips but:-
Kebab shop owner: Kood evaning
Patron: Can I 'ave aaa large Chickern Kebapb please(patron is slightly inebriated nay pretty plastered)
Kebab shop owner: sure
Patron *turns to talk to his mates about what he would do if he was Tony Blair or something equally beer induced*
3 minutes of political witt ensues were the entire UK government is deconstructed and reconstructed to some glorious shining beacon of hope(at least in your mind anyway)
Kebab :Khey you want chile sauce on that?
Why oh why do I always say yes, here's what he's really asking: -
Kebab shop owner: You aman or you a girly boy, you got balls khey mista you got what it takes! Cmon you know you love it! hey khadi we got another one of them, hey princess what'll it be.
All your mates are looking at you, your masculinity and the question of it rests on this one proposition, the world stops turning and for one shinning moment there is absolute clarity of purpose.
Next morning: S**t what was I eating last night? My mouth tastes like the leftovers from a nuclear reactor, now you have to put up with a taste in your mouth that has a half life of just under a thousand years. To go with that finely tuned dull ache in a mushy grey fugue in your head.
Chile sauce is sooo nice, but just so damned evil:devil:
There is this chippy in Warwick that has the most bogus chili sauce, they make thier own, it is like paste and is hot on so many levels but it is a smooth hotness, i am used to asking for loads of chili sauce, when i did at this place the guy had a big grin on his face, after afew bites my lips went numb a few more and my tongue followed 3/4 of the way through my belly started growling and i could not taste the pickled chili side order.
When ever i go to Warwick i make a bee line for that chippy for a killer kebab. :biggrin:
Moonbear
Aug5-06, 11:29 AM
Nah everyone knows that the best way to have fries is when they are smothered in cheese and gravy.....you will die an early artery clogged death but damn its good.
:cry: Then you have soggy fries! Fries are supposed to be crispy, not soggy. :frown: And thanks everyone, you have me craving fries so badly every time I read this thread that I'm going to have to go and clog a few arteries! :grumpy:
They aren't soggy if you eat them right away. Poutine (fries cheese and gravy) is the best!
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