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info.edp
Jan22-04, 01:24 AM
What are the differences between all of these numbers
- Natural Numbers.
- Rational Numbers.
- Whole Numbers.
- Integers.
Can anyone explain these with definitions and examples.
Thanks for the help.
Info.
himanshu121
Jan22-04, 01:41 AM
These are basic definition u would find in any maths book
still
Natural Numbers
1,2,3,4,...... are called Natural Numbers, their set is denoted by N
Integers
The Number ....-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3.... are called integers and their set is denoted by I
Rational Numbers
All numbers of the form p/q where p&q are integers and q not equal to 0 are called rational numbers and their set is denoted by Q and H.C.F of p,q is 1
Whole Numbers
Set of non-negative integers {0,1,2,3....}
info.edp
Jan22-04, 03:18 AM
Thanks for the reply. Why is 0 not included in the set of Natural Numbers? Is it true that 0 has its origin from India?
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Info.
himanshu121
Jan22-04, 03:25 AM
Is it true that 0 has its origin from India?
Yup its true[:))]
info.edp
Jan22-04, 03:39 AM
What about 0 not included in the set of Natural Numbers?
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Guybrush Threepwood
Jan22-04, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by himanshu121
Integers
The Number ....-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3.... are called integers and their set is denoted by I
isn't it denoted by Z???
sridhar_n
Jan22-04, 04:17 AM
isn't it denoted by Z???
Doesn't Z denote a Complex functions???
I personally feel that using Ifor the set of integers is more convinient than using any other alphabet.
Sridhar
Dimitri Terryn
Jan22-04, 04:23 AM
0 is a part of N , without it, it would not form a monoid for the addition.
Guybrush Threepwood
Jan22-04, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by sridhar_n
Doesn't Z denote a Complex functions???
actually no,
I personally feel that using Ifor the set of integers is more convinient than using any other alphabet.
if you want to be picky [6)] I was refering to \mathbb{Z} but I was too busy to write the tex code....
and it's about mathematics not personal preferences [;)]
HallsofIvy
Jan22-04, 05:35 AM
As to whether 0 is a natural number or not: it's a matter of taste. Peano's axioms originally included 0. Most modern math books identify "natural numbers" with "counting numbers" and start with 1.
It is true that the "counting numbers" do not form a monoid.
The "whole numbers" do.
himanshu121
Jan22-04, 06:10 AM
Sridhar we can use Z too for integers we here in India do use I for integers, and is much more convenient here But I want to quote this
for GuyBrush
Symbol/Notation doesnt mean anything unless u know what do Symbol/notation represents
So its upto U what u want it to assign
Though I agree Z can also be used
sridhar_n
Jan22-04, 06:47 AM
Thats what I have been telling him Himanshu.....I is a more convenient notation for Integers....
Sridhar
I means imaginary numbers.
master_coda
Jan22-04, 08:21 PM
Both \mathbb{I} and \mathbb{Z} are considered acceptable symbols for the set of integers. \mathbb{Z} is the most commonly used symbol, primarily for historical reasons. It's also traditional to use double-stuck characters, although that is just a convention as well.
However, neither symbol is better. The matter is entirly subjective. I use \mathbb{Z} because everyone I've ever worked with uses it, and I try to be consistent.
Guybrush Threepwood
Jan23-04, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by master_coda
I use \mathbb{Z} because everyone I've ever worked with uses it, and I try to be consistent. [/B]
yes, \mathbb{Z} rules[:D]
and Tron3k the imaginary numbers are part of the complex numbers \mathbb{C}, there is no special symbol for them.
ahrkron
Jan23-04, 12:11 PM
I sometime heard that Z is used for integers because the german word for "integer" starts with Z, so it was natural choice for the many german mathematicians working with them.
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