Integrability of a step function

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The discussion revolves around the integrability of a step function defined on the interval [2,7]. The original poster seeks to prove the function's integrability and its integral value, which they assert is -7, while expressing uncertainty about the proof process and integrability criteria.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to show that the difference between the upper and lower sums, U(f,P) - L(f,P), is less than a given epsilon. They explore specific partitions and calculations related to the function's behavior at discontinuities.

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Several participants have contributed ideas regarding the partitioning of the interval and the calculations of upper and lower sums. There is an ongoing exploration of epsilon-delta arguments and the implications of different partition choices. Some participants suggest specific values for delta in relation to epsilon, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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There are mentions of specific notation and definitions from a calculus textbook, which may influence the understanding of the problem. The original poster notes that the assignment was due shortly before they found the forum, suggesting time constraints in their inquiry.

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Let f (x) = 1 if 2<=x<4
2 if x =4
-3, if 4<x<=7
Prove that this function is integrable on [2,7], state its value and prove that it is what you say it is.
Obviously integral of f from [2,7] is -7. but its proof and the integrability have me and my friends snagged.

Suggestions anyone?

SO far we have the idea that we have to prove that U(f,P) - L(f,P) , Epsilon
We computed that U(f,P) - L(f,P) =5 (Tj - Tj-1) where Tj and Tj-1 is the subinterval in which Tj-1<2<Tj. However we are stuck from here.

My notation is from a book called Calculus by Spivak. Basically U(f,P) is the upper sum and L(f,P) is th lwoer sum for a partition P of the interval. P = {A=T0,T1,T2,...,TJ-1,TJ,...TN=B}and A and B are the endpoints of hte interval.
 
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A littel correction U(f,P) - L(f,P) must be strictly LESSSER than Epsilon.
 
Use the partition P={2,4-a,4,4+a,7}, where a>0 is small. You have L(f,P)=1(4-a-2)+1(4-4+a)+(-3)(4+a-4)+(-3)(7-4-a)=-7. You have U(f,P)=1(4-a-2)+2(4-4-a)+2(4+a-4)+(-3)(7-4-a)=-7+2a. You must have [tex]-7\leq \sup \{L(f,Q)|\textrm{Q a partition of [2,7]}\}[/tex] and [tex]\inf \{U(f,R)| \textrm{R a partition of [2,7]}\}\leq -7+2a[/tex]. You can use a simple epsilon argument to show that the two are equal, and thus integrable.
 
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Given [tex]\epsilon[/tex] find [tex]\delta[/tex] so that if [tex]|t_n-t_{n+1}|<\delta \forall t_n \in P \rightarrow U(f,P)-L(f,P) < \epsilon[/tex]

Hint: If you can find a monotone increasing function [tex]g[/tex] so that [tex]g(\delta)<U(f,P)-L(f,P)[/tex] then you have [tex]g^{-1}(\epsilon)[/tex] as a solution.

In this particular situation, you can also try manually calculating the maximum and minimum with intevals of varying lenghts. Remeber to have intervals that span the discontinuities.

You can also try to find [tex]\delta[/tex] for a couple of [tex]\epsilon[/tex] I suggest trying 1, .1,.01,.001,.0001.
 
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i think i'll use NateTG's given statement whichi think my prof would accept. I would think i could put delta = min (3,epsilon/5)
It works out fine that way. Thanks for the help. Alas i found out this forum, and idea, a dya AFTER the assignemtn was due...
 

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