Is Viktor Schauberger's Klimator a Real Invention?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the physical feasibility of Viktor Schauberger's Klimator, as presented on a specific webpage. Participants explore the underlying principles of temperature and air movement, questioning the claims made about the device's functionality.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses skepticism about the Klimator's physical possibility, citing a lack of understanding of basic principles of hot air rising and temperature changes with altitude.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the initial skepticism, prompting a more detailed explanation of temperature as kinetic energy of molecules.
  • A detailed explanation is provided, stating that hot air rises due to lower density caused by faster-moving molecules, and challenges the notion that hot air sinks in valleys as incorrect.
  • One participant acknowledges the explanation, indicating that it clarifies their understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of the Klimator; there are competing views regarding the understanding of temperature and air movement.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about temperature measurement and air density are discussed, but the implications of these assumptions on the Klimator's functionality remain unresolved.

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Hello! I'd like to know if this http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Klimator:Main_Page is physically possible & whether someone on here may of made one.
Thanks
 
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They show a complete lack of understanding of hot air rising and temperature lapse with altitude.
 
Figures. Could you explain why please? :)
 
One way to look at temperature is that it is the kinetic energy of a molecule. Basically, how fast the molecule is moving. When you measure temperature with a thermometer you are actually measuring the average kinetic energy impacting the device. Some molecules will be moving fast some are moving slow.

Bubbles of hot air rise in a house because the fast moving molecules push each other farther apart making the bubble of hot air is less dense (it weighs less so it floats).

When you go up a mountain there is less air.
The molecules can be moving much faster than the hot air molecules in the house (and thus be hotter), but there is less of them. So the average kinetic energy transferred to the thermometer is lower and it will show a colder temperature.

Saying hot air sinks to the valleys is pure nonsense.
 
Ah ha. Thank you very much :) That does make sense
 

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