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physicsgal
Oct19-06, 06:16 PM
im suppose to do some calculations to prove whether or not the pendulum demonstrates the law of conservation of energy.

mass of pendulum = 240.3g = 0.2403 kg
diamter of pendulum bob = 3.50
initial height of pendulum bob = 48 cm = 0.48 m
length of pendulum string = 2.14 m
time interval of photogate light interruption = 11.8 m/s

so there's position 'A' and position 'B'
for 'A"
Emechanical = Ek + Eg
= (0.5)mv^2 + mgh
= 0 + (0.2403kg)(9.8)(0.48m)
= 1.13J

for 'B'
Emechanical = Ek + Eg
= (0.5)mv^2 + mgh
= (.5)(0.2403kg)(11.8^2) + 0
= 16.73J

i must be missing something (my calculations aint proving anything).. any help will be appreciated!

~Amy

marcusl
Oct19-06, 06:55 PM
Did you calculate the speed correctly? You list it as time but give units of speed, suggesting an error there. Furthermore, 12 m/s is pretty fast for a 2m long pendulum.

physicsgal
Oct19-06, 07:11 PM
k, i think i see the mistake! it says "11.8 ms" and i thought they meant meters per second.

so 11ms = 0.011s?

so for B i'd go:
Emechanical = Ek + Eg
= (0.5)mv^2 + mgh
= (.5)(0.2403kg)((d/0.011)^2) + 0 = 1.13

im short on time but will figure this out tomorrow and post my results.


~Amy

physicsgal
Oct19-06, 07:19 PM
just thought of something else. to find the velocity i just take the diameter of the bob divided by 11ms?

~Amy

OlderDan
Oct20-06, 12:05 AM
just thought of something else. to find the velocity i just take the diameter of the bob divided by 11ms?

so 11ms = 0.011s?

~Amy
Yes, but use the 11.8 ms as it was in your data. And yes, ms is milliseconds so 11.8 ms = .0118 s

physicsgal
Oct21-06, 01:55 PM
i changed all the units to regular units (meters, kg, s, etc.) just to play thing safe.

for Ek (A)
i got: mgh
= (0.2403kg)(9.8 m/s^2)(0.48m)
= 1.13J

for Eg (B)
i got: 0.5mv^2
=(0.5)(0.2403kg)(2.966^2)
=1.057J

(to get the 2.966 velocity i took 0.035/0.01185s).

and then i just explain that mechanical energy becomes heat energy so the total mechanical energy gradually decreases. ?

~Amy

marcusl
Oct21-06, 02:12 PM
Yes, a certain amount of potential energy is lost to friction and air resistance, although 6% may be a little high. All measurements have uncertainty or inaccuracy, and that will also be a factor. One final question: when you measured the height of the pendulum, did you measure at the center of the weight at both positions A and B? It's important to measure the heights at the center of gravity.

physicsgal
Oct21-06, 02:21 PM
i didnt do any of the measurements myself. im taking an independent learning course, and the measurements are listed in the book, im just suppose to do some qualculations and write a lab report explaining why and whether or the pendulum lab demonstrates the law of conservation of energy.

slight ot: does the weight of the pendulum string make a difference? like a light weight vs. a heavy one?

~Amy

marcusl
Oct21-06, 03:29 PM
i didnt do any of the measurements myself. im taking an independent learning course, and the measurements are listed in the book, im just suppose to do some qualculations and write a lab report explaining why and whether or the pendulum lab demonstrates the law of conservation of energy.
Got it. Thanks!

slight ot: does the weight of the pendulum string make a difference? like a light weight vs. a heavy one?

~Amy
Good question. What do think?

physicsgal
Oct21-06, 04:17 PM
shouldnt the string weight be added to the bob weight?

~Amy

marcusl
Oct21-06, 04:25 PM
Not exactly, because it isn't in the same place. Think about where its center of gravity (COG) is and where the bob's is. Any ideas on how you would add the string's mass to your problem?