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the_d
Oct30-06, 06:11 PM
:rofl: How do i find the velocity of a block of mass 100 lb being dropped a distance 5 ft onto a spring whose stifness is 100 lbs/ft after the spring has deformed 4 in?

im sure it has somthing to do with work of a spring force but i dont know exactly how. any ideas???

jamesrc
Oct30-06, 06:21 PM
Can you write equations for the total energy of the mass and spring (kinetic and potential) before being dropped and at the moment the spring is deformed 4"? If you can, then you are well on your way to solving the problem.

the_d
Oct30-06, 06:25 PM
ok ill see what i can do, thanx

the_d
Oct30-06, 06:29 PM
do i use T1 + U = T2???

Dorothy Weglend
Oct30-06, 07:52 PM
How does the work done by gravity relate to the work done by the spring force?

the_d
Oct30-06, 08:29 PM
its in the opposite direction

Dorothy Weglend
Oct30-06, 11:07 PM
What do they sum to?

the_d
Oct30-06, 11:07 PM
What do they sum to?
zero.....................

Dorothy Weglend
Oct31-06, 01:44 AM
Well, there you go then. Problem solved.

Doc Al
Oct31-06, 08:53 AM
No reason to think that the work done by the spring force will equal the work done by gravity. Note that it doesn't say that 4 in is the maximum compression of the spring... the block keeps going!

Instead, consider conservation of energy (assume no energy is lost when the falling block hits the "massless" spring). What's the initial energy of the block just as its being dropped? What's the final energy of the block + spring system when the spring has been depressed 4 in?

the_d
Oct31-06, 11:55 AM
good explanation, i think i got it now thanx 4 help