Where Did I Go Wrong in Calculating Charge Distribution in a Sphere?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric potential due to a non-uniform charge distribution in a sphere, specifically with a charge density described by P(r) = Ar^(1/2). The original poster attempts to determine the total charge and subsequently the electric potential at a point outside the sphere.

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the charge density to find total charge, questioning the treatment of variables during integration. There are attempts to clarify the implications of spherical symmetry on electric potential calculations.

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Some participants provide guidance on the integration process and the application of principles related to electric potential for spherically symmetric charge distributions. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's adjustments in calculations, but no explicit consensus on the correctness of the final answers.

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Participants note the importance of correctly identifying the integration variable and the implications of the charge distribution's symmetry on potential calculations. There is also a recognition of the potential confusion regarding distances when calculating potential at points outside the sphere.

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1. A sphere has a charge distrubution such that the charge density goes as P(r)=Ar^(1/2). Where A=0.200 C/ M^(7/2). If the sphere has a radius of 2.00m, determine the electric potential at a point 3.00m from the center of the sphere.



I understand that P=Q/V (Im using P as Rho) but because the charge is not constant i must intergrate it. So P(r)= dQ/dV, then dQ=P(r)dV

V of sphere= ((4pi)r^3)/3) So dV= (4pi)r^2 and therefore dQ=P(r)(4pi)r^2
Now i believe that A and R are constants so I removed them from the intergral. After intergrating both sides of the equation i get Q=(Ar^(1/2)) (((4pi)r^2)/3)
I plugged in all the numbers and came out with 0.945 for Q. The answer for Q should be 0.812.

Can anyone tell me where I went wrong?
 
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The integral you're doing is over r so you can't just take all those r's out. The charge density is [tex]\rho(r) = A r^{1/2}[/tex] and so as you've said, the total charge is given by [tex]\int^R_0 \rho(r) 4 \pi r^2 dr[/tex] where [tex]R = 2[/tex] m is the radius of the sphere. So again, little r is not constant, it is an integration variable. Do the integral and you should get the right answer.
 
I did the intergral the correct way and came up to the correct answer. Now to find electric potential I plugged in the numbers to V=k (Q/R) this gave me a number for voltage of 3.65 X 10^9. I believe this is correct but it seems to easy.
 
What you have done is ok, but you should make sure you understand why. The reason why the potential is just kQ/r is because the charge distribution on the sphere is spherically symmetric and because you are looking outside the sphere. Remember that the potential of symmetric shell of charge is the same outside the shell as if all the charge were sitting at the center of the shell. The same basic principle is at work here. Similarly, if you were looking inside the sphere (i.e. at distances less than 2 m) then you would find that not all the charge contributes. Again this is because a symmetric shell of charge produces no field inside the shell.

Make sense?
 
I understand what you have said and I think I made a mistake. To find the potential at 3.00m. r is now 3.00 not 2.00? This time I came up with an answer of 2.4 X 10^9

Thanks!
 
Ah, ok, great. I didn't check your numbers so I am glad you were paying attention.
 

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