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VinnyCee
Apr18-07, 05:38 AM
OK, I have this complex number equation:

5\,V\,=\,\left[\left(j2\,+\,1\right)\,\left(1000\,-\,j10000\right)\,+\,\left(200\,+\,j2000\right)\rig ht]\,i_L

Now I try to solve for i_L:

i_L\,=\,\frac{5\,V}{\left(j2\,+\,1\right)\,\left(1 000\,-\,j10000\right)\,+\,\left(200\,+\,j2000\right)}

i_L\,=\,\frac{5\,V}{-20000j^2\,-\,6000j\,+\,1200}

Since j^2 is just -1:

i_L\,=\,\frac{5\,V}{21200\,-\,6000j}

And since \frac{1}{j} = -j, the final complex numbered answer I get is:

0.0002358\,+\,0.00083333j

However, this is incorrect! I have the answer for the problem, step-by-step, given by the prof. and I have double checked the answer using the Symbulator for the TI-89.

I should be getting:

0.00021836\,+\,0.0000618j

What am I doing wrong?:frown:

cristo
Apr18-07, 05:58 AM
OK, I have this complex number equation:

5\,V\,=\,\left[\left(j2\,+\,1\right)\,\left(1000\,-\,j10000\right)\,+\,\left(200\,+\,j2000\right)\rig ht]\,i_L

Now I try to solve for i_L:

i_L\,=\,\frac{5\,V}{\left(j2\,+\,1\right)\,\left(1 000\,-\,j10000\right)\,+\,\left(200\,+\,j2000\right)}

i_L\,=\,\frac{5\,V}{-20000j^2\,-\,6000j\,+\,1200}

Since j^2 is just -1:

i_L\,=\,\frac{5\,V}{21200\,-\,6000j}\;\;\; (1)

And since \frac{1}{j} = -j, the final complex numbered answer I get is:

0.0002358\,+\,0.00083333j \;\;\; (2)

What've you done to get from (1) to (2)? I would first divide top and bottom by 5 to get
i_L\,=\,\frac{V}{4240-1200j}

Now, you need to get this into the form V(x+jy), so I would multiply top and bottom by the complex conjugate of the denominator

i_L\,=\,\frac{V}{4240-1200j}\cdot\frac{4240+1200j}{4240+1200j}

Now expand out the denominator, and you should obtain a purely real number, and the result will follow from dividing the real and imaginary parts of the numerator by the denominator.

I should be getting:

0.00021836\,+\,0.0000618j

That's what I get too!

VinnyCee
Apr18-07, 06:13 AM
Wow, thanks!

Why does the way I was trying not work?

\frac{1}{j}\,=\,-j <----- Right?

\frac{5}{21200}\,=\,0.0002358

and for the complex part:

\frac{5}{-6000}\m\left(-j\right)\,=\,0.000833j

That is where I get the answer I was getting (wrong):

0.0002358\,+\,0.000833j

cristo
Apr18-07, 06:20 AM
Wow, thanks!

Why does the way I was trying not work?

\frac{1}{j}\,=\,-j <----- Right?

\frac{5}{21200}\,=\,0.0002358

and for the complex part:

\frac{5}{-6000}\m\left(-j\right)\,=\,0.000833j

That is where I get the answer I was getting (wrong):

0.0002358\,+\,0.000833j

Because you made the error of assuming that \frac{a}{b+cj} = \frac{a}{b}+\frac{a}{cj}. This is not true (in general) and you cannot split up a fraction like this.

The trick for solving such a question is to always multiply the fraction by the conjugate of the denominator-- this makes the denominator real, and so the fraction becomes one of the form \frac{a+bj}{c} which of course can be simplified to obtain \frac{a}{c}+\frac{b}{c}j

VinnyCee
Apr18-07, 06:29 AM
Sweet, thanks again! Now I understand.