How do i find the antiderivative of this

  • Thread starter Thread starter afcwestwarrior
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Antiderivative
Click For Summary
The discussion focuses on finding the antiderivative of the function x/sqrt(x^2 + 1). The initial attempts at simplification and integration were deemed incorrect, emphasizing that the chain rule and quotient rule do not apply when determining antiderivatives. Instead, a u-substitution method is recommended, specifically letting u = x^2 + 1, which leads to a clearer path for integration. The conversation also highlights the importance of understanding integration techniques and encourages revisiting textbook resources for clarity. Overall, the correct approach involves using u-substitution to simplify the integration process.
afcwestwarrior
Messages
453
Reaction score
0
x/ square root sign(x^2 + 1)

i did this x/ (x^2 + 1)^(1/2) simplified it

then i did this (x^2/2)/ 3/2(x^2 + 1)^(3/2) antidirevitionated it

then i cleaned it up x/ 3( x^2 + 1)^ 3

is this right
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
hmmm what did you do?

consider the u-substitution of
u=x^2
 
so i have to use the chain rule or the quotient rule when i find the antiderivative of this
 
verify by differentiation that the formula x/square root (x^2 + 1) + C
is correct

this is what i have to do, but first i have to find the antiderivate of that function or polynomial, and then i have to just differentiate it which is easy
 
Let u = x^2 + 1
Then du = 2x*dx
So x*dx/(x^2 + 1)^(1/2) = du/(2*u^(1/2))
 
afcwestwarrior said:
so i have to use the chain rule or the quotient rule when i find the antiderivative of this
No, you should remember that there's no such thing as Chain rule, or Quotient Rule when finding an anti-derivative to one function.
You should re-read your textbook again carefully, and slowly to fully understand what you have to do. In integration, we can make a u-substitution, a trig-substitution, Integration by Parts, blah, blah, blah,... but not chain rule, or quotient rule. They are just for differentiating.
What you have done in your first post is not correct.
\int \frac{f(x)}{g(x)} dx \neq \frac{\int f(x) dx}{\int g(x) dx}, they are not the same.

-----------------------

I'll give you an example, similar to the problem. But you really should read your textbook first.

Example 1:
\int x \sqrt{x ^ 2 + 3} dx

You should notice the x in front of the square root, it differs from the derivative of (x2 + 3, i.e, the expression inside the square root) by a factor 2.

\int x \sqrt{x ^ 2 + 3} dx = \int \sqrt{x ^ 2 + 3} x dx
Let u = x ^ 2 + 3 \Rightarrow du = (x ^ 2 + 3)'_x dx = 2x dx \Rightarrow x dx = \frac{du}{2}
The integral becomes:
... = \int \sqrt{u} \frac{du}{2} = \frac{1}{2} \int \sqrt{u} du = \frac{1}{2} \int u ^ {\frac{1}{2}} du = \frac{1}{2} \times \frac{u ^ {\frac{3}{2}}}{\frac{3}{2}} + C

= \frac{1}{3} u ^ {\frac{3}{2}} + C = \frac{1}{3} \sqrt{u ^ 3} + C, now, change u back to x, we have:

... = \frac{1}{3} \sqrt{(x ^ 2 + 3) ^ 3} + C

Example 2:
\int x e ^ {3x ^ 2 + 5} dx

It's pretty similar to the previous one, let u = 3x ^ 2 + 5 \Rightarrow du = 6x dx \Rightarrow x dx = \frac{du}{6}
The integral becomes:
\int e ^ u \frac{du}{6} = \frac{1}{6} \int e ^ u du = \frac{1}{6} e ^ u + C = \frac{1}{6} e ^ {3x ^ 2 + 5} + C

Now, you can just do the same to your problem. Can you go from here? :)
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 31 ·
2
Replies
31
Views
2K