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Caldus
Mar25-04, 12:37 PM
I am not sure what the answer to this is or how to go about getting an answer for this:

Find:

lim (1 - cos(a*x))/x^2
x->0

My teacher said the answer would have the term 'a' in it.

How do I go about getting the answer to a limit problem like this? Thank you.

Chen
Mar25-04, 12:43 PM
\lim _{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{1 - \cos ax}{x^2} = \frac{1 - \cos 0}{0^2} = \infty ^+
I might be wrong though, but I think the limit is (positive) infinity and that the function has an asymptote at x = 0.

kuengb
Mar25-04, 12:53 PM
Sorry to say that Chen, but you are wrong. To solve this, look at the power series of cos(ax). Like this you will have 1/2*a^2x^2+O(x^4) on top of the line and another square term below. So the limit is...

You can also use L'Hôpital (twice), if you know it.

Muzza
Mar25-04, 12:54 PM
It's trivial with l'Hopital's rule, but your teacher may or may not want you to use that ;)

lim (x -> 0) (1 - cos(a*x)) / x^2 =
lim (x -> 0) a * sin(ax) / (2x) =
lim (x -> 0) aa * cos(ax) / 2 =
a^2 * 1/2 =
a^2/2

Chen
Mar25-04, 12:55 PM
I figured it was too simple to be true. [;)]

Caldus
Mar25-04, 02:15 PM
I'm not supposed to know about L'Hopital's rule yet. How could I come up with that forumla? I have to show some kind of evidence. I don't know how to come up with that formula. Thanks.

Zurtex
Mar25-04, 03:15 PM
Hmm, \lim _{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{1 - \cos ax}{x^2}

Using the maclaurin series:

\cos ax \approx 1 - \frac{(ax)^2}{2}

Try that [:D]

Caldus
Mar25-04, 09:07 PM
I do not think I am supposed to know that either. Is there an easy way to prove that the limit is (ax^2)/2?

cookiemonster
Mar25-04, 09:10 PM
You could always graph it on a calculator and point.

cookiemonster

Caldus
Mar25-04, 10:00 PM
Yeah I know I did that for when a = 1, 1.5, and 2. But I don't know how to find the forumla for finding the limit if a was anything.

Caldus
Mar25-04, 11:01 PM
Anyone know? Thanks.

cookiemonster
Mar25-04, 11:14 PM
Er, I guess you could always try delta-epsilon proofs, but I don't think you want to go there.

Why not just plot it for a bunch of values of a and look for a pattern? If you have 20 values of a of varying value supporting you, it's pretty solid for your purposes.

cookiemonster

arildno
Mar26-04, 03:11 AM
Suppose you are allowed to know the limits: lim(x->0)(sin(x)/x)=1,lim(x->0)(cos(x)=1),
im(x->0)(a(x)*b(x))=lim(x->0)a(x))*(lim(x->0)b(x),
lim(x->0)(a(x)/b(x))=(lim(x->0)a(x))/(lim(x->0)b(x))
Then you may do without MacLaurin series/L'Hopital's Rule in your proof

MathematicalPhysicist
Mar26-04, 03:32 AM
Er, I guess you could always try delta-epsilon proofs, but I don't think you want to go there.

Why not just plot it for a bunch of values of a and look for a pattern? If you have 20 values of a of varying value supporting you, it's pretty solid for your purposes.

cookiemonster

now that's very rigorous [:D]

Zurtex
Mar26-04, 06:43 AM
I do not think I am supposed to know that either. Is there an easy way to prove that the limit is (ax^2)/2? Then would you mind explaining what areas you have covered around this sort of area?