From which side the electrons move to?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the movement of electrons in response to a moving magnet, specifically questioning the direction of electron flow in relation to Lenz's Law. Participants seek to understand the underlying principles governing this phenomenon, with a focus on both theoretical and conceptual explanations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the direction of the magnetic field is from North to South, challenging the initial representation of the magnetic field in the provided image.
  • Several participants reference Lenz's Law, suggesting that the induced current flows in a direction that opposes the change causing it, but there is a call for deeper explanations beyond the law itself.
  • One participant expresses frustration at the reliance on laws without accompanying explanations, seeking a more intuitive understanding of why electrons move from one side to another.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the laws themselves serve as explanations and encourages others to apply these laws to the specific scenario presented.
  • There is a mention of the conservation of energy as a principle related to the direction of current flow, but the request for a more detailed explanation remains unaddressed.
  • A later reply humorously suggests providing a "standard model explanation about force mediation particles" as a way to clarify the concepts involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the adequacy of explanations provided. While some reference established laws, others seek more intuitive or detailed reasoning, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding and expectations regarding explanations, with some relying on established physical laws and others desiring a more foundational approach to the concepts discussed.

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Look at this picture. There is moving magnet, it is moving from right to left. SO from which side the electrons will move, S1 or S2. http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1517/untitledgd9.jpg"
 
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ur arrows on the magnet are wrong, magnetic field always rusn from N to S
 
scientist91 said:
Look at this picture. There is moving magnet, it is moving from right to left. SO from which side the electrons will move, S1 or S2. http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1517/untitledgd9.jpg"

Ever heard of Lenz's Law?
For a current induced in a conductor, the current flows in such a direction that its own magnetic field opposes the change that produced it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz's_law
 
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ranger said:
Ever heard of Lenz's Law?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz's_law[/QUOTE]
Why it is like that? Not just law, I need explanation!
 
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scientist91 said:
Why it is like that? Not just law, I need explanation!

scientist what is your native language?
 
ice109 said:
scientist what is your native language?
Macedonian. Please answer on my question. Do not give me laws, without explanation. I need explanation, why the electrons move from S1 to + or from S2 to + pole?
 
scientist91 said:
Why it is like that? Not just law, I need explanation!
What kind of an "explanation" are you looking for that does not refer to physical laws? You must start somewhere.
 
scientist91 said:
Macedonian. Please answer on my question. Do not give me laws, without explanation. I need explanation, why the electrons move from S1 to + or from S2 to + pole?

Dude, the laws are the explanations. Just take what it states and apply it to your situation. For crying out loud, man, use your brain a little!
 
scientist91 said:
Why it is like that? Not just law, I need explanation!

Well, if you looked at the link(!), you can see that the current flows in such a direction that its own magnetic field opposes the change that produced it due to the conservation of energy. Read the link, you can't expect people on here to teach you!
 
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scientist91 said:
Macedonian. Please answer on my question. Do not give me laws, without explanation. I need explanation, why the electrons move from S1 to + or from S2 to + pole?

scientist i really think you should read texts in your native language
 
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Archduke said:
Well, if you looked at the link(!), you can see that the current flows in such a direction that its own magnetic field opposes the change that produced it due to the conservation of energy. Read the link, you can't expect people on here to teach you!
BUT WHY IT IS LIKE THAT? O M G!
 
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scientist91 said:
BUT WHY IT IS LIKE THAT? O M G!

someone give him the standard model explanation about force mediation particles
 

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