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avsj
Jul18-07, 12:09 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

A man slides a 100.0 kg box along the floor for a distance of 4.0m. If the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.250, and the man does the job in 3.6s, what is his power output in watts?


2. Relevant equations

W=Fd
P=W/t

3. The attempt at a solution

I dont know how to calculate the force used to push the box. Fn should equal Fg so Ff = 0.25 x 980 = 245. But from what force do I subtract this

andrevdh
Jul18-07, 02:28 AM
Well, the force needs to be at least equal to or larger than the frictional force does'nt it?

ank_gl
Jul18-07, 03:42 AM
. Fn should equal Fg so Ff = 0.25 x 980 = 245.

thats the force you are looking for:tongue2:

Gear300
Jul18-07, 05:29 AM
heheh, *(that drum thing)*...well, its obvious as to what to do next, so this was just a random a post.

marlon
Jul18-07, 05:32 AM
I dont know how to calculate the force used to push the box. Fn should equal Fg so Ff = 0.25 x 980 = 245. But from what force do I subtract this
Well, you have been given the kinetic friction force. This is the friction as long as the box is moving !

marlon

avsj
Jul18-07, 09:41 AM
The answer is 2.7 x 10^2 W.

So if my Ff = 245, I need to subtract that from the horizontal force to get Fnet which I can then use to get W= Fd and to me it is obvious from there. But how do I find the horizontal force of moving the box?

Thanks

avsj
Jul18-07, 09:45 AM
Oh I think i understand. The net force must equal the force of friction as it is moving so we use the Ff as the force. Thanks :D

ank_gl
Jul18-07, 12:33 PM
bingo, now u get it

GoldPheonix
Jul18-07, 01:16 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

A man slides a 100.0 kg box along the floor for a distance of 4.0m. If the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.250, and the man does the job in 3.6s, what is his power output in watts?

I dont know how to calculate the force used to push the box. Fn should equal Fg so Ff = 0.25 x 980 = 245. But from what force do I subtract this

Just walk yourself through the math, okay? It's nothing bad.

\overline{P} = \frac{ \Delta E}{ \Delta t}

\Delta E = F \Delta x

You've calculated force, right? So, what's the box's position at t=1? 0, right? So, time 1 = 0, right? It's your starting out point. Go from there.