PF is on IRC!

[Greg Bernhardt]

Yes per request PF has an official IRC channel

We have it hotlinked under the PF lounge category, otherwise goto http://www.physicsforums.com/chat

or on your favorite IRC client goto #physics on server irc.sorcery.net

[Dagenais]

You're chat applet on the site is horrible.

I couldn't type anything.

Is there anyway to hide my IP and ISP from the WHOIS and when I login to the channel?

:confused:

[Greg Bernhardt]

You're chat applet on the site is horrible.

I couldn't type anything.

Is there anyway to hide my IP and ISP from the WHOIS and when I login to the channel?

:confused:

Do you like anything about PF, seems like all you do is complain.

Could you get the applet to load? If all else download mirc.com

[Dagenais]

Do you like anything about PF, seems like all you do is complain.

Oh yeah, that's me. I'm the biggest whiner you'll ever see.

Could you get the applet to load? If all else download mirc.com

I use Mac, actually. So I'm using XCHAT.

The applet loaded, but it lagged.

Like when I typed: "What"

All that appeared was "at". I couldn't even quit it since typing "/quit" would just lag.

I'm using Safari for it.

Right now I'm in the channel, and it's pretty empty. Not that I'm complaining or anything...

It's just me and Ahrkron.

Edit: CookieMonster and I suggest that it might be safer to mask IP addresses...

[cookiemonster]

Yeah, masks are good.

cookiemonster

[The_Professional]

The Admins and Mentors already know your IP each time you log into Physics Forums

[cookiemonster]

That's fine, but I don't really want the Korean Lineage 2 junkies and part-time hackers knowing it.

And why is there a 20-person limit in the channel?

cookiemonster

[The_Professional]

That's fine, but I don't really want the Korean Lineage 2 junkies and part-time hackers knowing it.


Ahh..let me ask Greg then. Just kidding.



And why is there a 20-person limit in the channel?
cookiemonster

To prevent flooding..by script kiddies

[cookiemonster]

Takes a lot less than 20 people to flood a channel, last I checked. =\

Seems like a kind of counter-productive attempt. I imagine a bot would be more effective.

cookiemonster

[Dagenais]

Greg - you joined, left, joined, left then joined...said "hi" and left.

It's a chat. Chat :)

[Chen]

That's fine, but I don't really want the Korean Lineage 2 junkies and part-time hackers knowing it.

And why is there a 20-person limit in the channel?

cookiemonster
I could find your IP address without IRC if I really wanted to find it. If you're worried someone could hack into your computer just by knowing your address you have bigger things to worry about. :smile:

[Dagenais]

Yes, but the problem is that everyone can see your IP. Anyone who logs onto the channel.

[Chen]

Yes, and? Anyone here could find the IPs of a lot more forum users with a very simple trick, even if they weren't shown on IRC.

[cookiemonster]

Why are you against masking?

cookiemonster

[Chen]

Who said I am against it? All I'm saying is that if you are worried someone could "hack" you if he'd known your IP address, you should be much more worried about securing your computer than anything else. :smile:

[Guybrush Threepwood]

stop it people, you're scaring everybody away from the chat ... and I can't find out ther IP addresses :tongue: :cool:

[cookiemonster]

Then why are you arguing...?

Let's just leave it as "Masking would be nice."

cookiemonster

[The_Professional]

LOL kids, let's not turn this into an IP masking or Not Masking debate

[Dagenais]

Cookiemonster and I are trying to not debate this. It's just someone else who claimed that masking IPs wouldn't be good, for absolutely no reason.

Masking IPs keeps privacy from everyone who enters the channel #physics.

[The_Professional]

Guys, he wasn't saying he's against IP masking.

[cookiemonster]

Exactly, so there's no sense in arguing about this.

We need more folks in there! It's deserted!

I think Greg should institute an advertising campaign.

cookiemonster

[The_Professional]

The java client doesn't seem to be working

[chroot]

You guys are retarded. Are you afraid to give you street address to people for fear you're going to get burglarized? Do you think theives sit around all day wanting to go break into a house, but can't because they can't find any addresses?

- Warren

[cookiemonster]

You can burglarize an IP address...?

cookiemonster

[Kerrie]

You guys are retarded. Are you afraid to give you street address to people for fear you're going to get burglarized? Do you think theives sit around all day wanting to go break into a house, but can't because they can't find any addresses?

- Warren

i second that motion, hush up and chat, or get off your computer.

[Evo]

Cookiemonster, most residential internet accounts have dynamic IP addresses, so it's not an issue anyway. ISP's don't normally assign static IP addresses because it ties up their allocation.

[cookiemonster]

What is this? Don't make requests or get flamed week?

cookiemonster

[The_Professional]

ISP's also don't want to encourage people to run servers which is why they assign dynamic IP's. However, I'm on high speed and mine hasn't changed so from experience they're usually static as opposed to dynamic. Unless you're using AOL or dial-up then your IP would change.

[Evo]

ISP's also don't want to encourage people to run servers which is why they assign dynamic IP's. However, I'm on high speed and mine hasn't changed so from experience they're usually static as opposed to dynamic. Unless you're using AOL or dial-up then your IP would change.Your IP address will change anytime you reconnect when it is dynamic. As long as you remain connected, your IP address will remain the same. With DSL, you seldom reconnect which is the reason you haven't noticed it changing, but it is not static. An ISP will assign a static IP address if you are hosting a server, but you will most likely need a business class account. You just need to request a static IP address.

[The_Professional]

Evo, I'm on cable and I turn my computer on and off and my IP hasn't changed ever since

[Chen]

I'm also on cable but with a router, so even when I did turn off my computer my modem and router would keep the connection alive and my IP only changed once a month. But nowadays I have a static one from the ISP anyway.

[Evo]

Evo, I'm on cable and I turn my computer on and off and my IP hasn't changed ever sinceThen you would have a static IP address.

[The_Professional]

Evo, that's what I've been saying all along :smile:

[Evo]

Evo, that's what I've been saying all along :smile:Sorry, I must've missed where you said that.

But back to what I was saying, most residential accounts (dial up & DSL) have dynamic IP addresses, so fearing someone getting your IP address is nothing to worry about because you can simply log off & log back on and your IP address will have changed. Obviously if you have a static IP address, this doesn't apply to you. :smile:

[DarkAnt]

security would be nice, but then again i'm using windows, so i guess it doesn't really matter. This is really great, thanks greg

[Dagenais]

Cookiemonster, most residential internet accounts have dynamic IP addresses, so it's not an issue anyway. ISP's don't normally assign static IP addresses because it ties up their allocation.

Cable users do not have IP addresses that change.

They don't show our IP addresses when we post on forums.

Nobody has given a reason why IP masking shouldn't take place. Is it hard to do this?

security would be nice, but then again i'm using windows, so i guess it doesn't really matter.

Yes. Yes. Because you are using Windows, security is no longer important. You have been exposed to every evil person out there.

Because you are using Windows.

Security is non-existent in your life now.

:rolleyes:

You guys are retarded. Are you afraid to give you street address to people for fear you're going to get burglarized?

Yes Dr. Nick. Because we want safety, we are retarded.

[Monique]

Nobody has given a reason why IP masking shouldn't take place. Is it hard to do this?
Infact Dagenais, you can do it yourself:
When you open the chat window, type
/nickserv help
you can register your nickname there and you will find that you should be able to hide your IP, see below:

-NickServ- The IPHIDE option, when enabled will attempt to hide
-NickServ- your hostaddress from other users by setting your usermode
-NickServ- +m and causing services to reveal only disguised information.
-NickServ-
-NickServ- This option is to provided only to attempt to bolster security,
-NickServ- *NOT* as an aid to abuse, your actual hostname is only protected
-NickServ- in a weak manner.
-NickServ-
-NickServ- The +m usermode which can be set at any time by you with
-NickServ- /mode <yournick> +m applies similar protection at the
-NickServ- IRC level, causing /whois, etc to show only masked data.
-NickServ-
-NickServ- The obvious benefit of a masked host is some small degree
-NickServ- of protection against some 'nuking', some 'hacking', and some
-NickServ- ip-based denial of service attacks.
-NickServ-
-NickServ- EXAMPLES:
-NickServ- To turn NickServ hiding/masking on: /NickServ set iphide on
-NickServ- To turn NickServ hiding/masking off: /NickServ set iphide off

[Chen]

At the end of the day, if you really want to secure your computer you should protect it from the inside, by installing security-oriented software. If you protect your copmuter properly, it would not matter if someone got your IP and how. I would hardly call your IP address private anyway, considering the fact that it is disclosed every time you connect to a service or load a web page.