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jedjj
Oct3-07, 08:21 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Find the indicated partial derivative.

u=e^{r\theta}\sin\theta; \frac{\partial^3u}{\partial r^2\partial\theta}


2. The attempt at a solution

I started to derive u_{\theta} and I attained

r*e^{r\theta}\sin\theta + e^{r\theta}\cos\theta

But now I dont know how to take the derivative of the first equation, because there are 3 terms. It has been a few years since I have taken any math (I can assure you I won't take anymore breaks)

I just dont know where to go to attain u_{\theta r}

l46kok
Oct3-07, 08:30 PM
Actually there are two terms for you to derive, since your next objective is to derive with respect to r. In this process, you will treat \sin(\theta) as a constant. Do you recall how to do product rule?

[Edit]Oh of course you do, you just did it on your first derivation lol. Like I said, treat sine term as constant, derive with respect to r and apply product rule.

jedjj
Oct3-07, 08:39 PM
thank you for the response. so it should be \theta e^{r\theta}\sin\theta + \theta e^{r\theta}\cos\theta ?

If so I'm not sure how I attain an r anywhere from this. The answer in the back of the book is showing a sine term as having an r in front of it.

nevermind, I looked at it for just a few more seconds and found the mistake.
Thanks so much

bob1182006
Oct3-07, 08:45 PM
you do it the same but remember that you need to split up that derivative into 2 derivatives. and then you do the derivative of each term with respect to r just like you did in the first time with respect to theta.

l46kok
Oct3-07, 08:46 PM
thank you for the response. so it should be \theta e^{r\theta}\sin\theta + \theta e^{r\theta}\cos\theta ?

If so I'm not sure how I attain an r anywhere from this. The answer in the back of the book is showing a sine term as having an r in front of it.

No, I think you might've made some simple mistake

r * \frac{\partial}{\partial r}(e^{r\theta}\sin\theta) + \frac{\partial}{\partial r}r * (e^{r\theta}\sin\theta)

Do this for me and see what you get.

jedjj
Oct3-07, 09:14 PM
I have another question if you could help me please. I have a derivation done by my professor but I'm having problems getting this.

Question

verify that the function u=\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2}} is a solution of the three-dimensional Laplace Equation u_{xx}+u_{yy}+u_{zz}=0.

Attempt at a solution

u={(x^2+y^2+z^2)}^{-1/2}
u_x=-{(x^2+y^2+z^2)}^{-3/2}x
u_{xx}=-3{(x^2+y^2+z^2)}^{5/2}x^2-{(x^2+y^2+z^2)}^{-3/2}

He goes on to answer the question, but I do not understand where -{(x^2+y^2+z^2)}^{-3/2} comes from. And if I didn't catch everything he wrote down, then I'm not seeing what I am missing. [edit] OR why it is there.

Please help.

bob1182006
Oct3-07, 09:36 PM
In order to do the derivative of u_x you need to use the product rule which gives you the u_{xx}

jedjj
Oct3-07, 09:57 PM
Thank you so much. I really cannot comprehend product rule! :frown:

bob1182006
Oct3-07, 10:07 PM
well it's exactly the same as the Calc I product rule just that now you take other variables like y,z in this case to be constants.

for your problem: say you had g(x,y,z)*h(x,y,z) and you need the derivative with respect to x. to solve it you need to use the product rule and you'll get:
(g(x,y,z)*h(x,y,z))'=g(x,y,z)*h'(x,y,z)+h(x,y,z)*g '(x,y,z)

in your case h(x,y,z)=-x and g(x,y,z)=(x^2+y^2+z^2)^{-3/2}