How Do You Solve a Math Problem Using Spherical Coordinates?

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The discussion revolves around a math problem involving the use of spherical coordinates and the dot product to find the angle between two points, P and Q, on the Earth's surface. Participants express varying levels of familiarity with spherical coordinates and the mathematical concepts involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss expressing points P and Q in Cartesian coordinates to facilitate the use of the dot product. There are attempts to clarify how to handle angles in spherical coordinates, with some expressing confusion over the number of angles involved. Others suggest drawing vectors to visualize the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the use of spherical coordinates and the dot product. Some guidance has been offered regarding the representation of points and the calculation of angles, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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Several participants indicate a lack of prior knowledge regarding spherical coordinates, suggesting that the problem may assume background knowledge that they do not possess. This has led to questions about the assumptions made in the problem statement.

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I really have no idea where to start. Any help would be much appreciated.
 
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The problem asks you to use the dot product. A good place to start would be to express the points P and Q in cartesian coordinates so you can use the dot product.
 
The distance is R*theta/360, where cos(theta)=P.Q
Put P and Q into spherical coordinates and find the dot product to get cos(theta).
 
I'm just not understanding how to use the angles, as I've only ever used metres, Newtons, etc.

Could you possibly show me how?
 
I know how to calculate a dot product, but I don't understand how I'm supposed to do it with four angles...
 
What four angles? All you have two worry about is the angle between the two vectors from the center of the center of the Earth to each of the points P and Q.
 
D H said:
What four angles? All you have two worry about is the angle between the two vectors from the center of the center of the Earth to each of the points P and Q.
The two longitude's and the two latitude's...

I'm not seeing how you can use the dot product with four angles...
 
The latitude and longitude of some point on the Earth's surface together with the Earth's radius are just the spherical coordinates of the point. Certainly you have been taught something about spherical coordinates ...
 
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No, we haven't. Either our professor is assuming we've been taught this before... or... I'm not sure.

That is why I really don't understand this question.
 
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Naw we haven't learned about spherical coordinates D H (I am doing same assignment as Thomas)

Draw out one of the vectors, the angles they supply are enough to determine the x y and z coordinates of each point. (P and Q)
 
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I haven't worked with spherical coords either but once you get the angle between P and Q and you know the radius, you can find the arc length.
 
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Read the wiki article. There 3 space coordinates are expressed in spherical coordinate form. Each vector is represented in terms of its latitude and longitude.
 

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