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skateza
Oct10-07, 07:19 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Each of the limits represent a derivative f'(a). Find f(x) and a.
1) lim x-> 0 [(6^x) - 1]/x
2) lim x-> 0 [((4+h)^(-2)) - 0.0625]/h

2. The attempt at a solution

i'm not sure what i'm suppose to be solving for, they give us a derivative, or a partial derivative thats not completely solved and they want us to go backward to find the original function and the number that gave us the derivative they have. How do we do this without integrating.

real10
Oct10-07, 07:37 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Each of the limits represent a derivative f'(a). Find f(x) and a.
1) lim x-> 0 [(6^x) - 1]/x
2) lim x-> 0 [((4+h)^(-2)) - 0.0625]/h

2. The attempt at a solution

i'm not sure what i'm suppose to be solving for, they give us a derivative, or a partial derivative thats not completely solved and they want us to go backward to find the original function and the number that gave us the derivative they have. How do we do this without integrating.

How about using the definition of a derivative...

skateza
Oct10-07, 07:59 PM
Okay but i never even thought of that...
lim x -> 0 [f(a+x)-f(a)]/x = lim x -> 0 [(6^x) - 1]/x

so does that mean f(a+x) = 6^x, and f(a) = 1

than to find f(x) you do f(a+x)-f(a) = 6^x - 1

than a = 6^a = 2 than you take the log of that to find a?

HallsofIvy
Oct11-07, 05:42 AM
Okay but i never even thought of that...
lim x -> 0 [f(a+x)-f(a)]/x = lim x -> 0 [(6^x) - 1]/x

so does that mean f(a+x) = 6^x, and f(a) = 1

than to find f(x) you do f(a+x)-f(a) = 6^x - 1

than a = 6^a = 2 than you take the log of that to find a?
You never even thought of that? The problem said each was a derivative? Don't you associate derivatives with limits?

No, a is not 6^a and certainly not 2 (where did you get the 2 from?). What is 6^0?
Now what do you think f(x) and a are?

For the second problem you might want to calculate (1/4)2 as a decimal number.

skateza
Oct11-07, 11:39 AM
i was being sarcastic, of course that's the first thing i did...

i think on the bottom of my last post i meant to put

f(a+x) = 6^x, and f(a) = 1 Therefore, f(x) = 6^x - 1
if you stuff a in for x, to get f(a), you get it f(a) = 6^x - 1
Since f(a) = 1
1 = 6^x -1
6^x = 2
do a log to find a

OR... do i take the limit somewhere in there to find 6^0 = 1 and it'll all make sense...

CompuChip
Oct11-07, 01:04 PM
What about f(0 + x) = 6^x (suggestive notation... hope that rings a bell)