Calculating the electric field

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This discussion focuses on calculating electric fields using Coulomb's Law and Gauss's Law, particularly in scenarios involving high symmetry. Key concepts include the application of Gauss's Law for spherically symmetric charges, infinite line charges, and infinite planes of charge. The participants emphasize the importance of recognizing charge distributions to effectively use these laws, noting that while Coulomb's Law applies universally, Gauss's Law simplifies calculations in symmetric cases. Understanding these principles is crucial for solving complex electric field problems beyond textbook examples.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Coulomb's Law and its applications
  • Familiarity with Gauss's Law and Gaussian surfaces
  • Knowledge of electric field concepts and charge distributions
  • Basic calculus for solving electric field equations
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  • Study the derivation and applications of Gauss's Law in various charge configurations
  • Explore examples of electric fields due to different charge distributions, such as point charges and charged shells
  • Learn about the concept of electric flux and its relation to Gauss's Law
  • Practice problems involving electric fields in non-symmetric situations to enhance problem-solving skills
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Hi everyone,
I have just finished reading the chapter in my book where it discusses the electric field, electric flux, Coulomb's law, Gauss's law, etc. I think my biggest problem is knowing which to equations to use and how to relate them to models that aren't int the examples. Like the book gives an example on the electric field due to an infinite line charge which will seems simple enough using the equation that I'm provided. But when the professor will give me a question about an infinitely long cylinder which wasn't one of the examples then it just throws me off. Or the book give me an example of finding the electric field due to a charged spherical shell. Then the professor will give me a question on the electric field due to a point charge and a charged spherical shell. I know there is a method to knowing which equations to use and how to go about the problem, but I'm just having so much trouble grasping the concept.
 
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america8371 said:
Hi everyone,
I have just finished reading the chapter in my book where it discusses the electric field, electric flux, Coulomb's law, Gauss's law, etc. I think my biggest problem is knowing which to equations to use and how to relate them to models that aren't int the examples. Like the book gives an example on the electric field due to an infinite line charge which will seems simple enough using the equation that I'm provided. But when the professor will give me a question about an infinitely long cylinder which wasn't one of the examples then it just throws me off. Or the book give me an example of finding the electric field due to a charged spherical shell. Then the professor will give me a question on the electric field due to a point charge and a charged spherical shell. I know there is a method to knowing which equations to use and how to go about the problem, but I'm just having so much trouble grasping the concept.

Coulomb's law always work in any charge configuration and geometry. The problem here is that in cases where there is high symmetry, Gauss's Law may be simpler.

What does "high symmetry" means? It means that you can construct a simple Gaussian surface in which the electric field crossing that surface is either a constant and/or zero. This means that you have to have an idea of what the E-field looks like for a given charge distribution. Let's do a few examples:

1. A spherically symmetry charge. Here, with the origin at the center of the sphere, you can construct a spherical Gaussian sphere where the E-field crossing all points on the surface of the sphere is a constant.

2. An infinite line charge. Here, you can construct a cylindrical gaussian sphere of a certain length, say L, around the line charge. What you will see is that on the curved surface of the sphere, the E-field is a constant everywhere, while on the 2 round ends, the E-field is zero everywhere.

3. Infinite plane of charge. Here, you can construct a "pillbox" shaped gaussian surface that is imbeded into the surface. This time, the curved surface has zero E-field everywhere, while the round flat surface has constant E-field everywhere.

Without those highly symmetry situation, it is extremely difficult to effectively use Gauss's Law to calculate E-field. One can still make use of it in qualitative situation under non-highly symmetry cases, such as "proving" why there are no E-field in a conductor under electrostatic situation or why charges only reside on the surface of a conductor under the same situation, but one cannot come up easily with quantitative answers.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
Coulomb's law always work in any charge configuration and geometry. The problem here is that in cases where there is high symmetry, Gauss's Law may be simpler.

What does "high symmetry" means? It means that you can construct a simple Gaussian surface in which the electric field crossing that surface is either a constant and/or zero. This means that you have to have an idea of what the E-field looks like for a given charge distribution. Let's do a few examples:

1. A spherically symmetry charge. Here, with the origin at the center of the sphere, you can construct a spherical Gaussian sphere where the E-field crossing all points on the surface of the sphere is a constant.

2. An infinite line charge. Here, you can construct a cylindrical gaussian sphere of a certain length, say L, around the line charge. What you will see is that on the curved surface of the sphere, the E-field is a constant everywhere, while on the 2 round ends, the E-field is zero everywhere.

3. Infinite plane of charge. Here, you can construct a "pillbox" shaped gaussian surface that is imbeded into the surface. This time, the curved surface has zero E-field everywhere, while the round flat surface has constant E-field everywhere.

Without those highly symmetry situation, it is extremely difficult to effectively use Gauss's Law to calculate E-field. One can still make use of it in qualitative situation under non-highly symmetry cases, such as "proving" why there are no E-field in a conductor under electrostatic situation or why charges only reside on the surface of a conductor under the same situation, but one cannot come up easily with quantitative answers.

Zz.

Thanks ZapperZ, that actually helped me a bit. But I didn't quite catch #2.
 

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