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Ravenatic20
Feb19-08, 12:10 AM
I've been working on this problem for almost 4 days now and have made no progress. Once I think I've got it right, by professor says its wrong, and to try again. I've tried and tried. Any ideas? Here it is:

\int sin^{3}x cos^{2}x dx

scottie_000
Feb19-08, 12:44 AM
You could write everthing in the integral in terms of sines, then either:
1. Use reduction formulae for sin^n x
2. write the powers of sines in terms of sines of multiples of x

Mystic998
Feb19-08, 12:57 AM
Try to write the integrand as sin(x) * f(cos(x)) or cos(x) * f(sin(x)), where f is some algebraic function.

Marco_84
Feb19-08, 01:13 AM
I've been working on this problem for almost 4 days now and have made no progress. Once I think I've got it right, by professor says its wrong, and to try again. I've tried and tried. Any ideas? Here it is:

\int sin^{3}x cos^{2}x dx

I know this is not so formal, but it works:
using the fact that:

d(cos(x))=-sin(x)dx

you get:

\int sin^{3}(x) cos^{2}(x) dx=-\int sin^2(x)cos^2(x)d(cos(x))=-\int(1-cos^2(x))cos^2(x)d(cos(x))

and you are done.

regards
marco

Ravenatic20
Feb19-08, 01:33 AM
Thanks marco but I need the whole integral solved so the \int sign is removed. And to the point where our constant C is added on: + C.

d_leet
Feb19-08, 02:04 AM
Thanks marco but I need the whole integral solved so the \int sign is removed. And to the point where our constant C is added on: + C.

Do you honestly expect others to just do your work for you. Marco made the problem much simpler for you all it requires now is a simple, and fairly obvious substitution.

Ravenatic20
Feb19-08, 07:38 AM
Do you honestly expect others to just do your work for you. Marco made the problem much simpler for you all it requires now is a simple, and fairly obvious substitution.
No, the last part just doesn't make sense. If someone could explain it I'll take a shot at it, but I've never seen it (d(cos(x)))

Marco_84
Feb19-08, 08:12 AM
No, the last part just doesn't make sense. If someone could explain it I'll take a shot at it, but I've never seen it (d(cos(x))

do the substitution:

t=cos(x)-----> dt=d(cos(x))
you get it???

regards
marco

Ravenatic20
Feb19-08, 08:08 PM
Thanks Marco.

This is what I have so far, in continuation of what Marco helped out with:
=-\int(1-cos^2(x))cos^2(x)d(cos(x))
=-\int(\frac{1}{2}-\frac{1}{2} cos2x)(\frac{1}{2}+\frac{1}{2} cos2x)d(cos(x))
=-[{(\frac{1}{2}x-\frac{1}{4} sin2x)(\frac{1}{2}x+\frac{1}{4} sin2x)] + C

Err, is this right? If not how do I fix it? Thanks

jdavel
Feb19-08, 09:53 PM
No, that's not right.

Do what macro_84 said. let t = cos(x)

Now substitute t everywhere you see a cos(x) in the integrand that macro gave you (the one with nothing but cosines). it's staring you in the face.

Ravenatic20
Feb19-08, 10:00 PM
Err... That did not make much sense, sorry.

d_leet
Feb19-08, 11:02 PM
Err... That did not make much sense, sorry.

How did that not make sense? Are you familiar with integration by substitution? Make the substititution t=cos(x) and what happens?

Ravenatic20
Feb19-08, 11:29 PM
tx = -sin(x)?

Vid
Feb19-08, 11:52 PM
Well no wonder you couldn't get this integral, you don't understand the most basic method of integration.

Ravenatic20
Feb20-08, 12:08 AM
Well no wonder you couldn't get this integral, you don't understand the most basic method of integration.
Sorry, I've only been doing this for a few weeks. I came here for help, nothing else.

awvvu
Feb20-08, 12:14 AM
I don't think he's familiar with that notation for substitution, the d(cos(x))

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-substitution#Examples

Marco_84
Feb20-08, 07:54 AM
...=-\int(1-cos^2(x))cos^2(x)d(cos(x))=-\int(1-t^2)t^2dt

can you do it now??

ciao
marco

HallsofIvy
Feb20-08, 11:39 AM
Then stop expecting people to do the problem for you. What has been suggested is that you rewrite the integral as
[tex]\int sin^2(x)cos^2(x) (sin(x)) dx= \int (1- cos^2(x))cos^2(x) (sin(x)dx[/itex]
Now, if u= cos(x), what is du? If you don't know that you should review differentiation before trying integration.