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two problems in particular, one i got in calc, the other in physics
one asks if a = -v
and v = 1 when t = 0
what is a possible position function for this equation
the other one is
given a = 3x
and starting at rest from x = 0
find the velocity at 5 seconds
i cant seem to get the concept behind these, because the times we do them are so far and few between
For the first one:
since a = dv/dt = -v, you could solve it as a separable equation by writing it as
dv/v = -dt
and integrating both sides.
But you should really be able to do this one just by inspection.
Start off by thinking of a function that is equal to its own derivative & then think of how you can modify it to be equal to the negative of its derivative.
If you need more of a clue, look at the last item on this page:
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=4463&page=1&pp=15
(I can't understand why chroot didn't like it; I loved it. :biggrin: )
Then give it a constant coefficient C and use the given boundary condition v(0) = 1 to find the value of C.
HallsofIvy
Apr21-04, 07:58 AM
I started to do some complicated calculations on the second question when suddenly it hit me: the objects acceleration is proportional to x and x= 0??? And its initial speed is also 0?? What does that tell you?
I started to do some complicated calculations on the second question when suddenly it hit me: the objects acceleration is proportional to x and x= 0??? And its initial speed is also 0?? What does that tell you?
the assumption is that it will accelerate...
For the first one:
since a = dv/dt = -v, you could solve it as a separable equation by writing it as
dv/v = -dt
and integrating both sides.
But you should really be able to do this one just by inspection.
Start off by thinking of a function that is equal to its own derivative & then think of how you can modify it to be equal to the negative of its derivative.
If you need more of a clue, look at the last item on this page:
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=4463&page=1&pp=15
(I can't understand why chroot didn't like it; I loved it. :biggrin: )
Then give it a constant coefficient C and use the given boundary condition v(0) = 1 to find the value of C.
yeah that one was really obvious now that i think about it, for some reason i kept getting stuck with the 2nd derrivative of x = the 1st derivative of x, and that notation ws getting me nowhere...
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