What is the velocity of a point inside an infinite rotating rod?

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The discussion revolves around determining the velocity of a point within an infinite rod that is rotating about the z-axis with a given frequency, ω. The original poster seeks to express this velocity in terms of the position vector of the point inside the rod.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster considers using vector notation and cross product manipulation to find the velocity. They express uncertainty about the process and seek guidance on relating angular velocity to translational velocity.

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Some participants have provided suggestions, including the use of diagrams to visualize the problem and the relationship between angular and translational velocity. The conversation indicates a collaborative effort to clarify concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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The original poster mentions a specific constraint regarding the charge being less important than finding the velocity, and there is an emphasis on the need for proper vector manipulation in the context of the problem.

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Hi guys, I'm new here so thanks for any guidance...
Using vector notation, I need to find the velocity of an infinite rod, rotating with frequency, ω, centred on the z axis. (rotating about z-axis in the anti-clockwise direction when viewed from above).

I need to give the velocity in terms of a charge the point r = (x, y, z) which is inside the rod
(eg r┴ = (√x²+y²) < radius of the rod, a )
The charge itself is not important, I simply need to find the velocity V of it.

I have a vague idea as to how to do this:
I know that the velocity is perpendicular to both r and the z-axis, so it probably involves some sort of cross product?
Using the unit vector k multiplied by r/|r| ?

I am pretty clueless with this one guys, despite it only being simple vector manipulation... Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance
 
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You've got it right, its cross product manipulation. Do you know of any relation between angular velocity and translational velocity?
 
Draw a diagram!

Hi TheFlatlander! Welcome to PF! :smile:

It often helps to draw a diagram (a rough one).

Draw a diagram with the x and y axes, and a typical point r.

Now draw in where r goes during the rotation (I don't mean instantaneously, I mean for the next hour or so).

You know the frequency (w). Does that tell you how far it goes in any particular time? :smile:

If so, you have the speed (not the velocity, of course). So what is the velocity? Draw it on the diagram, then write it as a vector.
 
Thanks for the tips guys. I got there in the end. :approve:
 

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