Electron Under Gravity: Lose Potential Energy in First Centimeter

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The discussion centers on the analysis of an electron falling under gravity and the fraction of potential energy lost that is radiated away. The Larmor formula is utilized to calculate the radiated power from the accelerating charge, leading to the conclusion that the fraction of energy radiated can be expressed as f = {2e^2\over 3mc^3}(\sqrt{{2g\over h}}). The problem highlights the importance of considering both non-relativistic and relativistic speeds, with the assumption that the electron does not reach relativistic speeds within the first centimeter of fall. Key equations include the Lienard-Wichert potential and the relationship between power, time, and energy released during the fall.

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Homework Statement


An electron at rest is released from rest and falls under the influence of gravity. In the first centimeter, what fraction of potential energy lost is radiated away?

Homework Equations


Lienard-Wichert potential for the electron of charge e is given by:
[tex]\phi = \frac{e}{R(1 - \beta \cdot \hat R)}[/tex]

In this case the charge is accelerated by a gravity (a = g).

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Reference: Electrodynamic Radiation by Marion and Heald

The problem hasn't mentioned whether the speed of the electron is relativistic.

If the speed of the electron is less than c ([itex]\beta << 1[/itex]) then [itex]R(1 - \beta \cdot \hat R) \rightarrow 0[/itex] and the potential can be written as:
[tex]\phi = \frac{e}{R}[/tex]
The accelerated field can be given as:
[tex]\vec E = \frac{e}{c^2 R^3}\left((\vec R \cdot \vec g)\vec R - R^2\vec g\right)[/tex]

I don't know how the potential energy can be calculated here. If the direction of g and R are the same, shouldn't E = 0?

I assumed a non-relativistic case here. Am I going wrong here?
 
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Reshma said:
The problem hasn't mentioned whether the speed of the electron is relativistic.
Do you really think that something can reach relativistic speeds after falling for 1 centimeter?

Hint: Look up the Larmor formula for energy radiated by an accelerating charge.
 
Doc Al said:
Do you really think that something can reach relativistic speeds after falling for 1 centimeter?

Hint: Look up the Larmor formula for energy radiated by an accelerating charge.

Thanks, I got it! Here goes:
Considering the motion of the electron along the y-axis.
The dipole moment is [itex]\vec p = -ey\hat y[/itex] and [itex]y^2 = {1\over 2}gt^2[/itex]
Hence,
[tex]\vec p = -{1\over p}get^2\hat y[/tex]

[tex]\ddot{\vec p} = -{1\over p}ge\hat y[/tex]

By Larmor's formula, the radiated power is given by,

[tex]P = {2\over 3c^3}(ge)^2[/tex]

Now, the time t it takes to fall a distance 'h' is given by: [itex]h = {1\over 2}gt^2[/itex]

[itex]t = \sqrt{{2h\over g}}[/itex]

So the energy released in falling a distance 'h' is: E = Power x time

[tex]E_{rad.} = Pt = {2g^2e^2\over 3c^3}(\sqrt{{2h\over g}})[/tex]

Meanwhile the potential energy lost is PE = mgh.

So the fraction radiated is:
[tex]f = {E_{rad}\over E_{pot}} = {2g^2e^2\over 3c^3}(\sqrt{{2h\over g}} \times {1\over mgh} = {2e^2\over 3mc^3}(\sqrt{{2g\over h}})[/tex]

Just another question, why does the dipole moment appear when there is only a single charge involved?
 
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