Potential Energy of an Electric Field

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of electrical potential energy in the context of a positive charge Q and a small positive charge q placed in its vicinity. Participants explore the implications of charge interactions and the nature of electric fields, questioning where the potential energy goes when charges repel each other.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the fate of potential energy in the electric field of charge Q when charge q is repelled, suggesting that the potential energy remains as long as charge q is present.
  • Another participant explains that a field represents the potential for work to be done on a test charge placed nearby, indicating that the potential energy is linked to the field's presence.
  • A further inquiry is made about the source of energy used by charge Q to perform work on charge q, with a suggestion that energy conservation must hold true.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of work and potential energy, noting that while potential energy varies with distance, it remains constant for a given charge at a specific point in the field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of potential energy and work in electric fields, with no consensus reached on the underlying concepts or the source of energy involved in charge interactions.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions of work and potential energy, as well as the implications of energy conservation in the context of electric fields.

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Hi,

This should be quite a simple question but here goes:

My question is about the conservation of electrical potential energy. Say we have a conducting plate filled with a positive charge Q. If we place a small +ve charge q in its vicinity it will accelerate away as the charges repel each other, where has the potential energy in Q's Field "gone" that repelled q?
 
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jbunten said:
Hi,

This should be quite a simple question but here goes:

My question is about the conservation of electrical potential energy. Say we have a conducting plate filled with a positive charge Q. If we place a small +ve charge q in its vicinity it will accelerate away as the charges repel each other, where has the potential energy in Q's Field "gone" that repelled q?

No where,the potential will always be there if the charge q is there.

The concept of a field classically is that any point charge 1 has potential to do some work. If another "test" charge is placed in the vicinity of charge 1 then the work that charge 1 does on the test charge will be the field potential at that point.
In a way a field is a kinda model of the charge another charge q3 would experience if placed at a certain point within the vicinity of charge q4.
Hand- wavey description, but hopefully it answers your question.
 
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Ok, that's quite a good explanation, however charge 1 must use energy to perform work on the test charge, where does this come from? or is there something I am conceptually not grasping?
 
jbunten said:
Ok, that's quite a good explanation, however charge 1 must use energy to perform work on the test charge, where does this come from? or is there something I am conceptually not grasping?

Energy must be conserved right. Potential is the ability the charge has to do work on another charge if placed nearby, but you may also look at it this way the charge q is always doing work but the work will only be noticed if another charge is placed in its vicinity.[*This is not strictly correct though because work is defined as the force by distance moved, as nothing has moved no work has or is being done*]
The charge will always have a finite amount of potential energy that will not change, but it will of course vary from point to point (remember it falls of to the square of the distance), at each point this potential should always be the same. Field lines are used to joins points of equal potential.
 
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