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FrogginTeach
Jul10-08, 08:02 PM
The question on my homework says:
What can you say about the graph of the equation
The following is in matrix form with determinant symbols around the matrix
x y 1
a_{1} b_{1} 1 = 0
a_{2} b_{2} 1
All a's and b's are constants.
My answer was that the graph would be a line going through the origin. Like y=2x or y=3x
Am I way off track???
I have tried to attach the question in the document. Not sure if it will show.
FrogginTeach
Jul10-08, 09:06 PM
Those 1's and 2's are supposed to be subscripts.
HallsofIvy
Jul11-08, 05:32 AM
No, that is not, in general, a line through the origin. What is that determinant? It not difficult to calculate.
FrogginTeach
Jul11-08, 08:24 AM
The determinant is b1x - a2b1
a2b1 is a constant. So wait, I had that wrong. it is a straight line with a y-intercept which is some constant.
How do you say that though?
Defennder
Jul11-08, 10:53 AM
The determinant is not that. But I don't know what this question is asking for. What can you tell from the equation of a plane/line?
FrogginTeach
Jul11-08, 02:18 PM
Sorry, I forgot about it being a 3x3 matrix.
FrogginTeach
Jul11-08, 02:19 PM
I'm not sure if the question is asking what the graph of the determinant would look like or the matrix?
If you expand the determinant you get an expression like f(x,y)=0. The question is what's the graph of that equation? Determinants and matrices don't have graphs. Equations have graphs.
rock.freak667
Jul11-08, 02:27 PM
I'm not sure if the question is asking what the graph of the determinant would look like or the matrix?
Just find the determinant of the 3x3 matrix and you'll see what it describes. You have an idea of what it describes though.
FrogginTeach
Jul13-08, 05:32 PM
Okay. I found the determinant of this 3x3 matrix:
It is b1x + a2y + a1b1 - a2b1 - b2x - a1y
I simplified it: b1x - b2x + a2y - a1y - a1b1 - a2b1 = 0
I'm not sure if this will help, but I did this next.
b1x - b2x + a2y - a1y + C ; c = constant
a2y-a1y = C - b1x + b2x
y(a2 - a1) = C - x(b1 - b2)
y = (C - x(b1 - B2)) / (a2 - a1)
I know this is the equation of a line, but what more do I need to say?
Yes, it's a line. I think we are just waiting for you to retract the 'through the origin' part.
rock.freak667
Jul14-08, 01:12 PM
I know this is the equation of a line, but what more do I need to say?
Could say what the gradient is and where it cuts the axes, but I think saying that it is a straight line should be sufficient.
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