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fr33pl4gu3
Aug23-08, 04:33 PM
log8(9y+14)=6x6-11
9y+14=86x6-11
ln(9y+14)=ln86x6-11
ln9y+ln14=(6x6-11)ln8
ln9y=(6x6-11)ln8-ln14
y=((6x6-11)ln8-ln14)/ln9
is this equation correct??
snipez90
Aug23-08, 04:41 PM
New Question:
log8(9y + 14) = 6x6-11
9y+14 = 86x6-11
The next step is it by entering this step??
You have y on the LHS, just solve for it. Why would you continue to take the logarithm?
log8(9y+14)=6x6-11
9y+14=86x6-11
ln(9y+14)=ln86x6-11
ln9y+ln14=(6x6-11)ln8
ln9y=(6x6-11)ln8-ln14
y=((6x6-11)ln8-ln14)/ln9
is this equation correct??
That is not correct. ln(a+b) =/= ln(a) + ln(b). I think you should take another look at what a logarithm means and not a rule sheet.
fr33pl4gu3
Aug23-08, 04:56 PM
log8(9y+14)=6x6-11
9y+14=86x6-11
ln(9y+14)=ln86x6-11
ln126y=(6x6-11) ln8
y=((6x6-11) ln8)/ln126
Then is this correct??
fr33pl4gu3
Aug23-08, 05:25 PM
When multiply the log sign, can i just multiply one side??
epkid08
Aug23-08, 05:37 PM
9y+14=86x6-11
You seem to be over complicating things. From here just do some simple algebra to solve for y.
fr33pl4gu3
Aug23-08, 05:50 PM
9y + 14 = log86x6-log11
= log86x6 /log11
9y = log86x6 /log11 - 14
y = (1/9)log86x6 /log11 - (14 / 9)
Is this correct??
HallsofIvy
Aug23-08, 06:12 PM
9y + 14 = log86x6-log11
= log86x6 /log11
No. lod a- log b is not log a/log b. It is log a/b
9y = log86x6 /log11 - 14
y = (1/9)log86x6 /log11 - (14 / 9)
Is this correct??
fr33pl4gu3
Aug23-08, 06:41 PM
9y + 14 = log86x6 -log11
= log86x6 /11
9y = (log86x6 /11) - 14
y = ((1/9)log86x6 /11) - (14 / 9)
Then, this would be correct, right??
fr33pl4gu3
Aug23-08, 07:38 PM
Usually, how does an equation have the condition of b(logbu) =u??
snipez90
Aug23-08, 07:55 PM
9y + 14 = log86x6 -log11
= log86x6 /11
9y = (log86x6 /11) - 14
y = ((1/9)log86x6 /11) - (14 / 9)
Then, this would be correct, right??
Um, HallsofIvy explained why you CANNOT have that. Also please use parentheses and clear up the notation. You have no idea how frustrating it is to read logarithms without parentheses around the arguments, i.e. use the form ln(the expression inside of here).
Start with the line that epkid08 quoted you on and simply solve for y. Don't take anymore logarithms!
snipez90
Aug23-08, 07:59 PM
Usually, how does an equation have the condition of b(logbu) =u??
Ask yourself what logbu stands for. If your answer included the word exponent, then it's likely you'll immediately see that it holds by definition!
fr33pl4gu3
Aug24-08, 01:06 AM
The previous solution start off incorrectly, so i start off a new one, but there were all wrong, such as below:
log8(9y+14)=6x6-11
8log8(9y+14) =86x6-11
9y+14=6x6-11
9y=6x6-25
y=(6x6-25)/9
HallsofIvy
Aug24-08, 06:52 AM
The previous solution start off incorrectly, so i start off a new one, but there were all wrong, such as below:
log8(9y+14)=6x6-11
8log8(9y+14) =86x6-11
9y+14=6x6-11
Yes, 8log_8(9y+ 14)= 9y+ 14 but what happened to the base 8 on the right side?
9y+ 14= 8^{6x^6- 11}
That's easy to solve for y.
9y=6x6-25
y=(6x6-25)/9
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