Your Definitions of Good and Evil

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The discussion revolves around the philosophical concepts of good and evil, referencing Friedrich Nietzsche's work "Beyond Good and Evil." Participants explore interpretations of these concepts, their implications, and personal reflections on the nature of morality.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that being "beyond good and evil" implies a rejection of traditional moral frameworks.
  • There is a playful exchange regarding the interpretation of the phrase "gevild," with some participants expressing confusion over its meaning and origin.
  • A participant reflects on the idea that actions done out of love transcend conventional notions of good and evil.
  • Another participant argues that good and evil are artificial labels and that their definitions are not necessarily oppositional, suggesting a relative understanding of morality.
  • There is mention of misinterpretations of Nietzsche's ideas, with one participant acknowledging a lack of familiarity with his actual writings.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of Nietzsche's philosophy, with no clear consensus on the definitions or implications of good and evil. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views presented.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect personal interpretations and misunderstandings of Nietzsche's work, indicating a reliance on secondary sources rather than direct engagement with the text.

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[as it says above]
:devil: <=> :smile:
 
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quddusaliquddus said:
[as it says above]
:devil: <=> :smile:

I am Beyond Good and Evil.


Some sort of prize to the first person to understand that.
 
lol...ur gevild [pronounced: Ge-Veld]
 
Your name is franznietzsche, the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche wrote a book titled "Beyond Good and Evil". You think you are a book. :rolleyes: What's the prize?
 
quddusaliquddus said:
lol...ur gevild [pronounced: Ge-Veld]

Watch thread? Please tell me if that's what it means- it took a suprisingly long time to figure out! :surprise:
 
honestrosewater said:
Your name is franznietzsche, the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche wrote a book titled "Beyond Good and Evil". You think you are a book. :rolleyes: What's the prize?


Close...in fact very close, but i wasn't saying i was the book, i was answering the thread question, so what was my answer?
 
Yes. It means that. How did it take you so long?
 
franznietzsche said:
Close...in fact very close, but i wasn't saying i was the book, i was answering the thread question, so what was my answer?

I figured as much, I was just joking.
You are superman? I don't know, was I supposed to read the book? :biggrin:
You think that good and evil are shackles that bind us to an idealist dream of what we should be, meanwhile slowly poisoning what we really are ? Yeah, I don't know- I think I have read so many Nietzsche misinterpretations, I have forgotten anything he actually said. Not that I studied him much to begin with, obviously.
Maybe I will go read if the prize is worth it ;)

er- is idealist dream redundant or what? ;)
 
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quddusaliquddus said:
Yes. It means that. How did it take you so long?

Because I'm an American and am oblivious to any language besides American :devil: Okay, that's not fair, but kinda funny.
Seriously, I wasn't sure if it was German or Danish/Dutch (what is the difference anyway?) Plus, once I figured out it was Danish, the first gazillion online translation dictionaries didn't have any entry for "gevild".
Oh well, I'm glad I finally got it :)
Happy thoughts
Rachel
 
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franznietzsche said:
Close...in fact very close, but i wasn't saying i was the book, i was answering the thread question, so what was my answer?

You were created from love, as anything done out of love is always done beyond good and evil?
 
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loseyourname said:
You were created from love, as anything done out of love is always done beyond good and evil?

Mencken and I agree 100% on love.

honestrosewater said:
You think that good and evil are shackles that bind us to an idealist dream of what we should be, meanwhile slowly poisoning what we really are ? Yeah, I don't know- I think I have read so many Nietzsche misinterpretations, I have forgotten anything he actually said.

You ahve read a lot of misinterpretations. What he really said that while good and evil exist, as artifical labels given to concepts they are not necessarily opposites and furthermore, there is no non-a priori basis for choosing one as being preferable to the other, simply put there is no reason to be good rather than evil, such ideas as the definitive good vs evil are medieval at best, the preference is relative and a priori.
 

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