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kathrynag
Nov15-08, 03:13 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
f(x)=e^x
g(x)=lnx
h(x)=x^x=e^xlnx
If f and g are continous prove h(x) is continious for x>0
2. Relevant equations
3. The attempt at a solution
Ok this confuses me, because I would think that it wouldn't be too bad too do if h(x)=f(g(x)). Maybe the book had a typo?
Office_Shredder
Nov15-08, 03:27 PM
this is just f(x*g(x)). What do you know about x*g(x) if g is continuous?
kathrynag
Nov15-08, 03:38 PM
this is just f(x*g(x)). What do you know about x*g(x) if g is continuous?
Then lx-x0l<\delta
Then lxg(x)-x_{0}g(x_{0})l<\epsilon
snipez90
Nov15-08, 04:41 PM
Hmm well if you've proved that the product of two continuous functions is continuous (which is easy, provided that you know the proof that the limit of a product is the product of limits), then I don't think you need to resort to epsilon delta for x*g(x).
Also, f is continuous, so basically you have a lot of continuous functions involved in different operations. If you've already proved that f(g(x)) is continuous at a point a if g(x) is continuous at a and f is continuous at g(a), then you could save yourself a lot of trouble.
kathrynag
Nov15-08, 05:08 PM
Also, f is continuous, so basically you have a lot of continuous functions involved in different operations. If you've already proved that f(g(x)) is continuous at a point a if g(x) is continuous at a and f is continuous at g(a), then you could save yourself a lot of trouble.
Ok, how do I do that epsilon delta proof?
kathrynag
Nov15-08, 06:15 PM
lx-al<\delta
lg(x)-g(a)l<\epsilon
f continuous at g(a)
lx-g(a)l<\delta
lf(x)-f(g(a)l<\epsilon
snipez90
Nov15-08, 06:41 PM
A few comments to point you in the right direction. We want |x-a|<\delta to imply that lf(g(x))-f(g(a)l<\epsilon.
lx-al<\delta
lg(x)-g(a)l<\epsilon
This is fine, except one variable should be changed. We want to somehow connect this to our second fact, which is
f continuous at g(a)
lx-g(a)l<\delta
lf(x)-f(g(a)l<\epsilon
Ok, obviously we want to be careful about using the same variables. Since x is used to represent elements in the domain of g, let's use y to represent the elements in the domain f. Making this change, we have
f continuous at g(a)
ly-g(a)l<\delta
lf(y)-f(g(a)l<\epsilon
Now note that if we replace y with g(x), which is certainly allowed, we are very close to what we need. Namely, lg(x)-g(a)l<\delta implies that |f(g(x))-f(g(a)l<\epsilon. But we also know that we reserved the variable delta for lx-al<\delta. So we need to change the delta in lg(x)-g(a)l<\delta to some other variable.
In fact, we can choose any variable that is greater than 0 (Why?). So let's choose d' (delta prime). Now how can we use the fact that d' > 0 to connect our delta in |x-a| < \delta to our epsilon in |f(g(x))-f(g(a)l<\epsilon?
kathrynag
Nov15-08, 06:55 PM
A few comments to point you in the right direction. We want |x-a|<\delta to imply that lf(g(x))-f(g(a)l<\epsilon.
This is fine, except one variable should be changed. We want to somehow connect this to our second fact, which is
Should it be changed to a f or are you talking about a change from x to y?
Ok, obviously we want to be careful about using the same variables. Since x is used to represent elements in the domain of g, let's use y to represent the elements in the domain f. Making this change, we have
f continuous at g(a)
ly-g(a)l<\delta
lf(y)-f(g(a)l<\epsilon
Now note that if we replace y with g(x), which is certainly allowed, we are very close to what we need. Namely, lg(x)-g(a)l<\delta implies that |f(g(x))-f(g(a)l<\epsilon. But we also know that we reserved the variable delta for lx-al<\delta. So we need to change the delta in lg(x)-g(a)l<\delta to some other variable.
In fact, we can choose any variable that is greater than 0 (Why?). So let's choose d' (delta prime). Now how can we use the fact that d' > 0 to connect our delta in |x-a| < \delta to our epsilon in |f(g(x))-f(g(a)l<\epsilon?
Ok so there is d' such that lg(x)-g(a)l<\delta. then |f(g(x))-f(g(a)l<\epsilon
kathrynag
Nov19-08, 04:46 PM
Ok, here's my start:
h(x)=x^{x}
Then h(x)=f(xg(x))
Choose \epsilon<0. There is \delta_{1}>0 such that if \left|y-x_{0}g(x_{0})\right|<\delta_{1}.
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