Calculating the Flux of F (Vector Calculus)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the flux of a vector field \(\mathbf{F}\) through a surface \(S\) defined by the intersection of a cone and a sphere. Participants explore different approaches to evaluate this integral, considering both theoretical and practical aspects of vector calculus.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the surface \(S\) as the region above the cone \(z = \sqrt{x^2+y^2}\) and below the sphere \(x^2+y^2+(z-1)^2 = 1\).
  • Another participant suggests visualizing the region as half an orange with a cone missing.
  • A different participant proposes using the divergence theorem (Gauss' theorem) to evaluate the integral.
  • One participant provides a derivation of the intersection points between the cone and the sphere, concluding that the portion of the sphere above the cone is a hemisphere.
  • There is a question about whether the problem should be approached in two parts due to the "ice-cream" shape of the solid.
  • Another participant clarifies the bounds for \(z\) and suggests that \(x\) and \(y\) should be bounded by \(x^2+y^2 \leq 1\).
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the integration process and requests help with setting up the triple integral.
  • A later reply outlines the bounds for integration and suggests using polar coordinates for the double integral.

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Participants express various approaches to the problem, with no consensus on a single method or solution. There are differing opinions on how to set up the integral and whether to treat the problem in parts.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in setting up the integrals, and there are assumptions about the geometric interpretation of the solid that remain unexamined.

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Calculating the Flux of F (Vector Calculus)

Let S be the surface of the solid which is enclosed by the cone


[tex]\begin{align*} z = \sqrt{x^2+y^2} \end{align}[/tex]

and the sphere [tex]x^2+y^2+(z-1)^2 = 1[/tex], and which lies above the
cone and below the sphere.

Let [tex]\begin{align*} \mathbf{F} = xz\mathbf{i}+yz\mathbf{j}-2\mathbf{k} \end{align}[/tex]

Calculate the flux of [tex]\begin{align*} \mathbf{F} \end{align}[/tex] , outwards through S

I am currently trying to work on the problem don't know were to approach it from exactly if any1 can help Great Appreciation :)
 
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I am thinking whether they want me to evaluate it as half an orange with a cone missing. any help is greatly appreciated
 
The region is the solid "ice-cream" formed.
(Letting x,y be fixed, the z-value will have its lowest value on the cone, and its highest value at a point on the spherical shell)

You should in all probability use the divergence theorem (Gauss' theorem) to evaluate this integral.
 
To help you on a bit, here's a derivation of the planes of intersection between the cone and the sphere:
[tex]z=\sqrt{1-(z-1)^{2}}\rightarrow{z}^{2}=2z-z^{2}\rightarrow{z}=0,1[/tex]

Hence, the portion of the sphere directly above the cone is a hemisphere!
 
thanks Arildno
 
umm Arildno do i have to do it in TWO parts? like asin Triple Integral over V1 UNION Triple Integral over V2?
because of the fact that its a ICECREAM
 
Not at all!
Let z lie between the values:
[tex]\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}\leq{z}\leq{1}+\sqrt{1-x^{2}-y^{2}}, (x^{2}+y^{2}\leq{1})[/tex]
 
ummmm Arildno, don't know mayb I'm not a quick learner..

the DIV F i got to be 2z
umm you have told me the bounds of integration for Z but for X and Y? like can you draw down the triple integral i need to evaluate, Appreciate it
 
Well, I wrote the bounds down:
[tex]x^{2}+y^{2}\leq{1}[/tex]
Intgrating 2z between limits is easy (z^{2} evaluated on the given limits),
while the disk in the x-y plane is most easily evaluated by polar coordinates.
Hence, you get to evaluate the double integral:
[tex]\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{1}((1+\sqrt{1-r^{2}})^{2}-r^{2})rdrd\theta[/tex]
 

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