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sara_87
Dec22-08, 05:58 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
what is cos(2n*pi)
2. Relevant equations
3. The attempt at a solution
I understand that cos(npi)=(-1)^n
so is cos(2n*pi)=2(-1)^n ??
Make the substitution m=2n in cos(mπ)=(-1)^m
sara_87
Dec22-08, 06:53 AM
so you mean cos(2n^2)=(-1)^2n
??
No, I mean cos(2n pi)=(-1)^{2n}
HallsofIvy
Dec22-08, 07:19 AM
Do you know what cos(0) is? Do you know that cosine is periodic with period 2 pi?
sara_87
Dec22-08, 07:23 AM
yep cos0=1
yep, cos is periodic with period 2pi
HallsofIvy
Dec22-08, 08:29 AM
So cos(2n pi)= cos(0+ n(2pi))= ?
sara_87
Dec23-08, 09:33 AM
oh right,
so =(-1)^(n+1)
is that right?
oh right,
so =(-1)^(n+1)
is that right?
No. Look at posts 4 and 7.
HallsofIvy
Dec23-08, 10:58 AM
Do you know what cos(0) is? Do you know that cosine is periodic with period 2 pi?
yep cos0=1
yep, cos is periodic with period 2pi
So cos(2n pi)= cos(0+ n(2pi))= ?
oh right,
so =(-1)^(n+1)
is that right?
Okay, what does "periodic" mean????
boombaby
Dec23-08, 11:05 PM
...I think it is necessary to know the graph of cos(x), which may help a lot. so, find one.
edit (:shy: trying not to be ambiguous)
...I think it is necessary for one to know the graph of cos(x), which may also help a lot. (regardless of this particular problem)...
"periodic" is really the key:approve:
HallsofIvy
Dec24-08, 05:25 AM
It might help. It is not necessary. All that is necessary is to know what "periodic" means. No computation is required.
sara_87
Dec24-08, 02:48 PM
I understand that periodic means that cosine function repeats after multiples of 2 pi. but how would that have anything to do with writing cos(2n*pi) ?
cos (npi)=(-1)^n because as long as n is an integer, the value will alternate from -1 and 1 (clearly form the graph)
HallsofIvy
Dec24-08, 04:18 PM
I understand that periodic means that cosine function repeats after multiples of 2 pi. but how would that have anything to do with writing cos(2n*pi) ?
Would it be easier if it were written n*(2pi) rather than 2n*pi? This is about multiples of 2pi!
cos(2pi)= cos(0+ 2pi)= cos(0)= 1
cos(4pi)= cos(2pi+ 2pi)= cos(2pi)= 1
cos(6pi)= cos(4pi+ 2pi)= cos(4pi)= 1
cos (npi)=(-1)^n because as long as n is an integer, the value will alternate from -1 and 1 (clearly form the graph)
sara_87
Dec24-08, 05:11 PM
oh right!!! so cos(n2pi) has to always be 1...i feel very stupid, i should have known that. for all n, cos(2npi) must be 1 as long as n is an integer.
thank you very much
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