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jemerlia
Dec28-08, 06:49 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
A body falls vertically from rest. During the nth second it falls a distance d. Prove that by the end of the nth second it has fallen a total distance (D) of (2d+g)^2/8g


2. Relevant equations
x = x0 + V0 + 1/2at^2
where
x0 = initial position
v0 = initial velocity
a = acceleration
t = time


3. The attempt at a solution
The total distance is D = 1/2gn^2 because the object has fallen for n seconds. At the end of the first second d=D and t^2 = 2d/g. I'm unsure about how to proceed from here. Any help gratefully received...

PhanthomJay
Dec28-08, 08:53 PM
jemerlia, welcome to PF!

Hint: What is the distance fallen after (n-1) seconds?

jemerlia
Dec28-08, 09:23 PM
Thanks for the hint - clearly the distance d is given by
d = 1/2gn^2 - 1/2g(n-1)^2
which (according to my rusty maths) simplifies
= 1/2g(2n-1)

It appears that t^2 = 2d/g is useful here but substitution appears to give nonsense. I 've obviously missed or misunderstood something.

rl.bhat
Dec28-08, 10:19 PM
{d = 1/2gn^2 - 1/2g(n-1)^2
which (according to my rusty maths) simplifies
= 1/2*g*(2n-1)}
This is right. Now find n in terms of d and g.
Now the total distance fallen in n seconds is D = 1/2*g*n^2. Substitute the value of n. You will get the required answer.

jemerlia
Dec29-08, 12:42 AM
Many thanks for the help during the "holidays"...

Because d = 1/2 * g * (2n-1) then

n = (2*d/g + 1) / 2

= d/g + 1/2

However, when n is substituted into

D = 1/2*g*n^2

as

D = 1/2*g*(d/g + 1/2)^2

it does not produce the expected result. I guess I have a problem with the arithmetic somewhere... advice gratefully received...

rl.bhat
Dec29-08, 01:05 AM
D = 1/2*g*(d/g + 1/2)^2

D = 1/2*g*(2d + g)^2*1/4g^2
= (2d + g )^2/8g

jemerlia
Dec29-08, 01:36 AM
Thank you to everyone who gave their time to help me with this problem. It has served to identify the areas I must work on.