Harmonic motion of a string - Find energy

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The discussion revolves around the harmonic motion of a mass hanging from a string, focusing on the relationship between the period of vibration, spring constant, and potential energy in the system. Participants explore how to express the elastic potential energy in terms of mass, period, and elongation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formula for the period of vibration and its implications for the spring constant. There are attempts to relate gravitational potential energy and elastic potential energy, with some questioning the reference point for gravitational potential energy.

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Multiple interpretations of potential energy are being explored, with some participants providing equations and others questioning assumptions about the reference point for gravitational potential energy. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance on deriving relationships between variables has been offered.

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Participants note the lack of a defined reference point for gravitational potential energy, leading to assumptions about its value at specific elongation points.

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When a mass m, hanging from a string with spring constant k, is set into up-and-down simple harmonic motion, it has a period of vibration T, which is given by the equation T=2*pi*sqrt(m/k). The amount of elastic potential energy PE stored in the spring at any given instant is dependent on its spring constant k ant its elongation x. Determine the potential energy stored in the spring, PE, in terms of m, T, and x.

I got PE=mgh
m would be the mass in the string and h would be the elongation, but what about acceleration?
 
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Use the equation T=2*pi*sqrt(m/k) and solve for k. Get that and sub in what you got for k into PE=.5kx^2

PE=(4*pi^2*m*x^2)/(2*T^2)
 
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They don't give you a relation point for the gravitational potential energy, so I will assume it to be zero at x = 0. The total potential energy is the sum of the gravitational potential energy and the elastic potential energy:

[tex]E_p = E_{p_g} + E_{p_{ele}} = mgx + \frac{1}{2}kx^2[/tex]

And K you can find from T.
 
Chen said:
They don't give you a relation point for the gravitational potential energy, so I will assume it to be zero at x = 0. The total potential energy is the sum of the gravitational potential energy and the elastic potential energy:

[tex]E_p = E_{p_g} + E_{p_{ele}} = mgx + \frac{1}{2}kx^2[/tex]

And K you can find from T.

Except of course you meant
[tex]E_p = E_{p_g} + E_{p_{ele}} = -mgx + \frac{1}{2}kx^2[/tex]

:wink:
 
baffledMatt said:
Except of course you meant
[tex]E_p = E_{p_g} + E_{p_{ele}} = -mgx + \frac{1}{2}kx^2[/tex]

:wink:
Of course... I didn't notice x represented elongation, I just assumed the X axis pointed up.
 

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