Relativistic electron in static electric field

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The problem involves an electron placed in a static electric field, with the objective of calculating its velocity as a function of time, V(t). The context is within the framework of relativistic mechanics, particularly focusing on the behavior of an electron under the influence of an electric field.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive V(t) by relating force, momentum, and velocity, while integrating the effects of the electric field. Some participants question the validity of the derived expression, particularly its behavior as time approaches infinity.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the implications of the derived expression for V(t), with some expressing concerns about its unbounded nature and potential violation of relativistic limits. There is an exploration of how to analyze the limit of the expression as time increases, with suggestions for mathematical approaches to understand the behavior of the function.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made in the derivation, particularly regarding the relativistic effects and the behavior of the velocity as it approaches the speed of light. The original poster is also considering the need to integrate the velocity to find the position function, x(t).

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Homework Statement


Electron placed in static electric field [tex]\vec{E}[/tex] = -[tex]\Psi[/tex][tex]\hat{x}[/tex] , its initial velocity is 0. Calculate V(t).


Homework Equations



[tex]F_{e}[/tex]=[tex]\frac{d}{dt}[/tex]p(t)

p(t) = [tex]\gamma[/tex](t)mv(t)

Gamma is 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) of course


The Attempt at a Solution



This is how I go about it and want to know if I'm on the right track.

i) First you multiply the electric field by the charge of an electron to get:

[tex]F_{e}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{d}{dt}[/tex]p(t) = e[tex]\Psi[/tex]

ii) Then you integrate wrt time to get:

p(t) = e[tex]\Psi[/tex]t

iii) Then you relate momentum to velocity by:

p(t) = [tex]\gamma[/tex]mv(t)

iv) Finally you solve for V(t) from the above equation, expressing gamma explicitly I get the following formula:

v(t) = [tex]\frac{e{\Psi}t}{m}[/tex]*[tex]\frac{1}{ {\sqrt{1+ {\frac{ e^{2}{\Psi}^{2}t^{2} }{ m^{2}c^{2} }} }} }[/tex]

Does this seem to be the right method? I have to integrate this eventually to get x(t)..
 
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This doesn't seem right because V(t) is unbounded as t goes to infinity and thus we would pass the speed of light correct?
 
Hybird said:
This doesn't seem right because V(t) is unbounded as t goes to infinity and thus we would pass the speed of light correct?
No. This expression

Hybird said:
v(t) = [tex]\frac{e{\Psi}t}{m}[/tex]*[tex]\frac{1}{ {\sqrt{1+ {\frac{ e^{2}{\Psi}^{2}t^{2} }{ m^{2}c^{2} }} }} }[/tex]

approaches c as t goes to infinity.
 
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So maybe I am on the right track. Just curious, how do you get that limit? Do you have to binomial expand the square root?
 
Hybird said:
how do you get that limit? Do you have to binomial expand the square root?
I don't know what you mean by that, but probably not. After you do about 100 million of these kinds of limits, you just start to smell the approach. In this case, I just know that the other stuff under the radical will be much larger than 1, so I ignore the 1. The rest is straightforward. I think the more mathy way to do it is to divide top and bottom by t or something ...
 
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