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maverick280857
Jun2-04, 10:49 PM
Hi guys..

I am a new member of physicsforums.com (I am a science student at the pre-undergrad level). I am unable to solve a problem involving motion of a chain along a circular track, in classical mechanics. The problem is from an old book on mechanics. Please read the problem (below) and offer your advice...

The problem:

"A flexible bicycle-type chain of length (1/2)*Π*r (0.5 * pie * radius) has a mass RHO per unit length and is released after being held by its upper end in an initial rest condition in the smooth circular channel. Determine the acceleration 'a' which all links experience just after release. Also find the expression for the tension T in the chain as a function of θ (theta)¸ for the condition immediately following release. Isolate a differential element of the chain as a free body and apply the appropriate motion equation."

The Diagram (drawn in Paint: the red dots represent the chain, the diag is otherwise vague and not as good as the original book version) is on the link,

Please visit www.geocities.com/fsairin/physics.html [Associated Diagram]

I have gone as far as getting T (The tension) as a function of θ¸ but the function also includes 'a' which has to be eliminated.

Any ideas/solutions/approaches are appreciated...

Cheers
Vivek

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maverick280857
Jun6-04, 11:48 PM
(FOR THE MODERATOR)

HI

I think I posted this in a wrong place...can you please shift it to the homework forum?

Cheers
Vivek

maverick280857
Jun10-04, 01:33 AM
Hi

I am including my solution so that you can help me better...


dm = \rho r d\phi


Forces


\sum dF_{\phi} = T(\phi + d\phi) + g dmsin\phi - T(\phi) = dma_{t}


which gives,


dT = dm(a_{t} - gsin\phi) = \rho r (a_{t} - gsin\phi)d\phi


Assuming

T(\phi = 0) = T(\phi = \frac{\pi}{2}) = 0

(I think there could be a mistake in the choice of these boundary values.)


\int_{0} ^{T(\phi)} dT = \rho r a_{t} \int_{0}^\phi d\phi - g\int_{0}^\phi sin\phi d\phi


or


T(\phi) = \rho r a_{t} \phi - \rho r g(1-cos\phi)


Also


T(\phi = \frac{\pi}{2}) = 0 \Rightarrow \rho r a_{t}\frac{\pi}{2} = \rho r g \Rightarrow a_{t} = \frac{2g}{\pi}


So substituting for the acceleration in the expression for tension, we have


T(\phi) = \rho r g(\frac{2\phi}{\pi} - (1 - cos\phi))


instead of


T(\phi) = \rho r g(\frac{2\phi}{\pi} - sin\phi)


which is the answer given in the book.

Any help is greatly appreciated....

Cheers
Vivek