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Somefantastik
Mar3-09, 03:47 PM
Hey Everybody.

for the system:

r' = r(1-r)
\theta' = 1

with

r(0) = x; \theta(0) = 0 ;

the answer is

r(t) = \frac{xe^{t}}{1-x+xe^{t}}

\theta(t) = t

This answer was given in class as part of a process, and I can't remember how that answer is calculated. Can someone help me?

HallsofIvy
Mar3-09, 04:03 PM
Hey Everybody.

for the system:

r' = r(1-r)
\theta' = 1

with

r(0) = x; \theta(0) = 0 ;

the answer is

r(t) = \frac{xe^{t}}{1-x+xe^{t}}

\theta(t) = t

This answer was given in class as part of a process, and I can't remember how that answer is calculated. Can someone help me?
Pretty basic. You have two completely separate equations- just solve each one separately. \theta'= 1 so, integrating, \theta= t+ C. Since \theta(0)= 0+ C= 0, C= 0 and \theta(t)= t. r'= r(1- x) is only slightly harder:dr/dt= r(1-r) can be rewritten as
\frac{dr}{r(1- r)}= dt
and that can be integrated by "partial fractions".

Somefantastik
Mar4-09, 08:05 AM
Pretty basic. You have two completely separate equations- just solve each one separately. \theta'= 1 so, integrating, \theta= t+ C. Since \theta(0)= 0+ C= 0, C= 0 and \theta(t)= t. r'= r(1- x) is only slightly harder:dr/dt= r(1-r) can be rewritten as
\frac{dr}{r(1- r)}= dt
and that can be integrated by "partial fractions".

\int\frac{dr}{r(1-r)} \ = \ \int dt

where \int\frac{dr}{r(1-r)} \ = \ \int\left(\frac{1}{r} \ + \ \frac{1}{1-r} \right)dr \ = \ ln(r) \ - \ ln(1-r) + C_{1}

so ln(r) \ - \ ln(1-r) + C_{1} = t + C_{2}

2r -1 + C_{3} = e^{t} + C_{4}

r = \frac{e^{t} + C + 1}{2}

r(0) = \frac{e^{0} + C + 1}{2} = x

C = x-1 ;

r = \frac{e^{t} + x}{2} ;

I'm still not getting the right answer.

HallsofIvy
Mar4-09, 09:32 AM
\int\frac{dr}{r(1-r)} \ = \ \int dt

where \int\frac{dr}{r(1-r)} \ = \ \int\left(\frac{1}{r} \ + \ \frac{1}{1-r} \right)dr \ = \ ln(r) \ - \ ln(1-r) + C_{1}

so ln(r) \ - \ ln(1-r) + C_{1} = t + C_{2}

2r -1 + C_{3} = e^{t} + C_{4}
No. ln(r/(1-r))= t+ C' (I've combined your C1 and C2).

Now r/(1-r)= Cet. (C is eC')
So r= Cet- rCet, (1- Cet)r= Cet, and
r(t)= \frac{Ce^{t}}{1- Ce^{t}}
Since r(0)= x,
r(0)= \frac{C}{1- C}= x
so C= (1- C)x, C= x- Cx, C+ Cx= C(1+ x)= x so
C= \frac{x}{1+x}

r = \frac{e^{t} + C + 1}{2}

r(0) = \frac{e^{0} + C + 1}{2} = x

C = x-1 ;

r = \frac{e^{t} + x}{2} ;

I'm still not getting the right answer.

Somefantastik
Mar4-09, 10:10 AM
Thanks so much, I get it now.