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JJBladester
Mar7-09, 01:16 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Show that the origin (0,0) is a critical point. Write the linear differential equation in operator format and solve.
2. Relevant equations
x'' + 10x' + 25x = 0
3. The attempt at a solution
I am not sure how to show that the origin is a critical point (without using a graph).
As for solving the 2nd-order linear differential equation, here's what I did:
x'' + 10x' + 25x = 0
Auxillary equation: m2 + 10m + 25 = 0
Roots: m1 = m2 = -5
General solution: x = c1e-5x + c2xe-5x
I believe my general solution is correct, but am not sure if I solved it by "operator method".
tiny-tim
Mar7-09, 03:42 PM
Hi JJBladester! :wink:
Show that the origin (0,0) is a critical point. Write the linear differential equation in operator format and solve.
x'' + 10x' + 25x = 0
…
General solution: x = c1e-5x + c2xe-5x
I believe my general solution is correct, but am not sure if I solved it by "operator method".
Yes, that's the correct general solution :smile: …
I think by operator format they just mean D2 + 10D + 25 = 0 :wink:
But I don't quite understand what is meant by (0,0) :confused: …
does that mean that there is an initial condition of x' = 0 at x = 0?
if so, (0,0) is a critical point just by looking at x'' + 10x' + 25x = 0 … you don't need to solve it. :wink:
JJBladester
Mar7-09, 04:39 PM
I don't quite understand what is meant by (0,0) :confused: …
does that mean that there is an initial condition of x' = 0 at x = 0?
if so, (0,0) is a critical point just by looking at x'' + 10x' + 25x = 0 … you don't need to solve it. :wink:
My professor said I should:
"Change the 2nd order DEQ into a system of first order DEQ's.
Basically...Let y=dx/dt and then substitute.... When you get these two equations, set both derivatives equal to zero and solve for the x and y value that solves the system."
I'm still a little confused what that means.
Here is my attempt:
Let y = x', y'=x''
So x'' + 10x' + 25x = 0 becomes y' + 10y + 25x = 0.
-10y - 25x = 0
y = 0
-25x = 0
x = 0
tiny-tim
Mar7-09, 05:17 PM
hmm … I've no idea what he means :redface: …
unless maybe he means put y = x' + 5x …
then y' + 5y = 0 …
dunno … as I said in my last post, I don't really understand the question :confused:
HallsofIvy
Mar8-09, 06:26 AM
Let y= x'. Then x'' + 10x' + 25x = 0 becomes y'+ 10y+ 25x= 0 and we have the system of equations x'= y, y'= -10x-25y. A "critical point" is (x,y) such that x'= 0 and y'= 0.
tiny-tim
Mar8-09, 07:04 AM
Let y= x'. Then x'' + 10x' + 25x = 0 becomes y'+ 10y+ 25x= 0 and we have the system of equations x'= y, y'= -10x-25y. A "critical point" is (x,y) such that x'= 0 and y'= 0.
why can't we just put x'' = x' = 0 in the original equation, then, and forget about y? :confused:
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