More power series: 2nd-order ODE

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The discussion revolves around finding a power series solution for the second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by y'' - 2xy' + 4y = 0. Participants explore the method of power series, including the derivation of a recursion relationship and the challenges in determining the general solution.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • The initial attempt at a power series solution involves expressing y, y', and y'' as series and substituting them into the ODE.
  • A recursion relationship a_{n+2} = 2a_n(n-2)/(n+2)(n+1) is proposed, but its correctness is questioned.
  • One participant suggests using initial conditions to express coefficients in terms of constants, leading to the conclusion that all even terms must be zero.
  • Another participant encourages exploring the pattern of coefficients a(3), a(5), etc., to derive a general rule based on cancellations observed in the series.
  • There is a suggestion to write a(n+2) in terms of earlier coefficients like a(n-2), a(n-4), etc., to identify a pattern.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the correctness of the recursion relationship and the method to derive the general solution. There is no consensus on the approach to proving a general rule for the coefficients.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes limitations such as the dependence on the initial conditions and the need for further exploration of the recursion relationship to establish a clear pattern among the coefficients.

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I felt pretty chuffed after getting the power series solution for a simple first-order ODE (with MathNerd's help) and thought I'd have a go at solving a second-order ODE using the same method. Then I realized I didn't understand it as well as I'd thought...

The differential I'm attempting to find the power series solution for is:

[tex]y'' - 2xy' + 4y = 0[/tex]

My attempt at a solution:

[tex]y = \sum_{n=0}^\infty a_nx^n[/tex]
[tex]y\'\; = \sum_{n=1}^\infty na_nx^{n-1}[/tex]
[tex]y'' = \sum_{n=2}^\infty n(n-1)a_nx^{n-2} [/tex]

substituting into the equation and shifting indices, etc. :

[tex]\sum_{n=2}^\infty n(n-1)a_nx^{n-2} -2x\sum_{n=1}^\infty na_nx^{n-1} + 4\sum_{n=0}^\infty a_nx^n = 0[/tex]

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^\infty (n+2)(n+1)a_{n+2}x^{n}-\sum_{n=1}^\infty 2na_nx^{n} + \sum_{n=0}^\infty 4a_nx^n = 0[/tex]

[tex]4a_0 + 2a_2 + \sum_{n=1}^\infty (n+2)(n+1)a_{n+2}x^{n}-\sum_{n=1}^\infty 2na_nx^{n} + \sum_{n=1}^\infty 4a_nx^n = 0[/tex]

then

[tex]4a_0 +2a_2 = 0[/tex]

and

[tex](n+2)(n+1)a_{n+2} - 2na_n + 4a_n = 0[/tex]

the recursion relationship is:

[tex]a_{n+2} = 2a_n(n-2)/(n+2)(n+1)[/tex]

Can anyone tell me:

i) if my recursion relationship is correct

and

ii) if so, how on Earth do you get from there to the answer of:

[tex]y = c_1(1 - 2x^2) + c_2(x-x^3/3 + ...)[/tex]
 
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let c(1) =a(0), then you can find a(2) in terms of c(1), a(4) must then be zero by the relation, and hence so must all the other even terms.
now let c(2)=a(1), work out what a(3), a(5) etc are and see if you can prove a general rule about it, things ought to cancel out. alternatively you could look up somewhere how to solve recurrence relations ; they behave like differential equations but aren't taught anywhere near as well in school, if at all.
 
matt grime said:
work out what a(3), a(5) etc are and see if you can prove a general rule about it

That's the part I'm having trouble with :)
 
what do you think the general rule is, have you written down the first few terms and seen why the pattern develops the way it does? there are lots of cancellations, use the relation to write a(n+2) in terms of a(n-2), then a(n-4) then a(n-6)... etc
 

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